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    This is my story.....

    Hi
    I am mswaterlilly (which I thought was ironic considering I chose that name years ago) I am here to learn and to get input about this "new me"

    I have not been officially DX.... I started having odd problems about 4 years ago it started with cognitive things like trying to drive somewhere and if I did not have a GPS guiding me I would take wrong turns and even though I had driven the route before everything would look unfamiliar and I then would have an anxiety attack!

    I went and seen my doctor and they put me on Anxiety meds, then came a breast lump that scared me, even the ultrasound guy asked if his superior could come look and they proceeded to do a core biopsy right there..(did I mention I have a fear of needles BAD) when the biopsy came back they said it was PASH I am still a little confused about that ... another year and I noticed that when I would be walking it was like I was tripping over imaginary things and double stepping, my hands also didn’t seem to clasp onto things and I would then drop everything, I have heard a lot from friends and family like "have you been walking long?" and "you're very clumsy!" but I had to rethink what had happened because I knew my hand had closed at least that's what I thought!

    Within the next year my hands and then arms would be numb in the mornings and my hands started to ache a lot.. I also started to have balancing problems, I’d turn to go up my stairs and within two steps I would have to grab the wall because everything would move and I couldn't balance with it or I would go to walk around something and somehow my middle body wouldn’t move when I "told it to" and then I would end up with a bruise from knocking my hip and/or stomach on the edge of something (man that hurts). During that year a lot of pains became more apparent like headaches, I’ve had my fair share but they began to become debilitating for everyday things and as a mom of 4 it really becomes a problem!

    I have been to numerous Doctors in those years OBGYN, Surgical for my breast, ER for my gallbladder and everyone ran tests mostly blood and urine everything came back normal they checked for thyroid and numerous things…. I began to think it was mental and that bothered me because I noticed that others around me did not seem to have these problems!

    I finally, earlier last year, decided to write down everything even the small stuff that seemed to be getting worse and went to a doctor asking them to hear me out and to please figure my mess out! After I blurted out a bunch of things referring to my list which I believe my haste was because I was finally in an office and he was listening to me so I was not going to waste the time I had been given, He then decided he was going to send me to some specialists and sort it all out.. At the time the biggest thing I wanted “fixed” was the headaches they had become more frequent and painful so he scheduled a Neurologist and a Rheumatologist considering the stiffness, swelling feeling in my knees and hands!

    My first appointment was with the Neurologist, as I was giving her the list she did a couple of physical exams including walking and eye follows ect.. She then ordered an MRI and a EEG!

    My next appointment was with the Rheumatologist, while giving him the list he actually giggled and I paused and asked him while he was giggling. He then said he knew what I had, I then asked him what he began to explain Fibromyalgia and told me this is what I have then pretty much says diet and exercise can manage my symptoms. In the days after with my mind still trying to process this I just couldn’t accept it something didn’t sit right with it!

    Yes I had a lot of the symptoms but I also had some that were not in that spectrum so I decided to just wait for the results of the Neurologist, until that appointment my husband and I ran through some things and did a little of our own research when MS came into our sights and we read over symptoms and listened to others about their symptoms and how it can progress but we decided once again wait for the MRI! I think I was more concerned with a tumor being present …

    When I went in for my appointment I then told the doctor of my suspicions and why I felt this should be in the things we are aware of… she then looked at me and said well you certainly have the symptoms and she popped out of the room to look at my MRI, she returned a short time later and expressed that I did have some lesions but they are not where they are typically with MS in fact the ones she sees are usually associated with severe headaches, my inflammatory markers were good but considering how many symptoms were present “we are going to watch this closely!”

    So here I am in LIMBO waiting for my next MRI in 6 months from the date of my last appointment! For now she has me on magnesium QC10 and baby aspirin a day with meds for when a headache becomes present.
    Sorry so long but I seem to feel lately I need to tell the whole story.. has anyone else had a possible MS with no inflammatory markers and a steady progression?
    Thanks

    ** Moderator's note - Post broken into paragraphs for easier reading. Many people with MS have visual difficulties that prevent them from reading large blocks of print. **

    #2
    Limbo is a hard place to be. I was there for almost two years.

    Please keep coming back. Feel free to post in any forum, but you might particularly like to check out the one for those in limbo: http://www.msworld.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=100.

    If you end up being dx-ed with something other than MS, we also have a place for you here.

    Please keep us posted.
    ~ Faith
    MSWorld Volunteer -- Moderator since JUN2012
    (now a Mimibug)

    Symptoms began in JAN02
    - Dx with RRMS in OCT03, following 21 months of limbo, ruling out lots of other dx, and some "probable stroke" and "probable CNS" dx for awhile.
    - In 2008, I was back in limbo briefly, then re-dx w/ MS: JUL08
    .

    - Betaseron NOV03-AUG08; Copaxone20 SEPT08-APR15; Copaxone40 APR15-present
    - Began receiving SSDI / LTD NOV08. Not employed. I volunteer in my church and community.

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      #3
      Hello mswaterlilly and welcome to MSWorld.

      has anyone else had a possible MS with no inflammatory markers
      Are you referring to blood work that show no inflammation? If so, this would not tell anyone if you might have Multiple Sclerosis. There is no blood test that would indicate MS.

      I did have some lesions but they are not where they are typically with MS in fact the ones she sees are usually associated with severe headaches
      Headaches/migraines can cause brain lesions as can many other things.

      Best wishes and take care!
      Diagnosed 1984
      “Lightworkers aren’t here to avoid the darkness…they are here to transform the darkness through the illuminating power of love.” Muses from a mystic

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        #4
        Inflammatory markers

        I was actually curious because I read somewhere that in transition/or in PPMS.. There really isn't any markers in the blood work and in RRMS there is many markers... So I guess my question was is there anyone with PPMS that didn't have any inflammatory markers or had a lot I was just wanting a comparison.
        Thank You!! for your responses
        Mamabug I will check out that thread Thank You!!

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          #5
          Hi mswaterlilly,

          Welcome aboard! Just sorry why you joined us and to hear about your symptoms. As far as a comparison of inflammatory markers, it wouldn't really matter. They only mean something for other conditions, not MS, regardless of the type anyone has.

          This may help you understand better how MS (any form) gets diagnosed: http://my.clevelandclinic.org/servic...osis-diagnosed

          And this is is how PPMS is diagnosed:

          "Unlike relapsing forms of MS, primary-progressive MS (PPMS) is characterized by a fairly steady, gradual change in functional ability over time — most often related to walking — without any relapses. Due to this basic difference in the disease course, different criteria are used to make an accurate diagnosis of PPMS. The criteria for a diagnosis of PPMS are:

          One year of disease progression (worsening of neurological function without remission), AND
          Two of the following:

          -A type of lesion in the brain that is recognized by experts in as being typical of MS
          -Two or more lesions of a similar type in the spinal cord
          -Evidence in the spinal fluid of oligoclonal band or an elevated IgG index, both of which are indicative of immune system activity in the central nervous system

          Meeting these criteria can sometimes take a fairly long time, particularly if the person has only recently begun to experience neurologic symptoms. Several studies have suggested that the PPMS may take two to three years longer to diagnose than relapsing-remitting MS."

          http://www.nationalmssociety.org/Wha...Progressive-MS

          Hope this helped. Take care ,
          Kimba

          “When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.” ― Max Planck

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            #6
            Thanks Kimba22 that did help I'm very happy about finding such a great community of people!!!

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              #7
              Welcome, Water Lilly. Good for you for paying attention to your body and weird symptoms! Also, good for you for keeping on the path of talking to different specialists. More shall be revealed as you go along.

              I ignored my symptoms, though I knew there was something wrong with me - headaches, fatigue that left me completely un-functional and crying everyday on my way home from work, tingling, numbness, vertigo, etc. But I pushed on at my job until I suffered a major flare, going blind in one eye and then could not walk and had to be off work for 2 months. That is when I got an MRI and the diagnosis of MS.

              Be kind to yourself during this process, and try not to get too far ahead of yourself on the what-ifs. Your life is changing but you really don't know how exactly.

              I was thankfully already seeing a therapist when I went through the diagnosis. She was very helpful to me. What I experienced due to the illness and diagnosis was tremendous fear, and grief over losing my healthy self. I felt that my life options have been seriously limited. What a betrayal by my own body.

              But I am still here, and my life is better than it was at that time in the most important ways. Really is it so awful that I can't handle a hike on a 100 degree day, can't take classes after work, or can't go shopping all day long? I have been managing the headaches and fatigue with medicine and changed routines; and I still have a lot of fear, but it is nothing like what I went through in the beginning. Anyway I was already a fearful person, I just had never looked at it honestly. My eyesight came back and I can walk fine (if I'm not overly tired . It took a long time for those nerves to re-route themselves, however. The brain is a truly amazing thing and I try to take care of mine now!

              Good luck. Just know next time you're in that cold doctor's office waiting to see what comes next, you are not alone!
              Jam
              DX'd MS 8/17/05
              God never closes a door without at least cracking open a window.

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