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    Ankle "giving in"

    Just happened for the third time today. I get up and start walking, and once I make a step, a sharp pain hits the arch of the foot, and the ankle "folds in". It also felt like the tibia bone kept moving down through the ankle joint. Very weird. So, I almost fell down three times today. What's going on? Does anyone have the same thing, and how do you deal with it?

    PS. Also, I had spasms in the calf of this same leg for a month now (not strong but constant). Can it be the reason for this new problem?
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    #2
    Mine does that once in a while, but I've never figured out what's causing it or how to prevent it. You might want to use a cane or walker for a couple days until you're sure it's gone away for now. I've never had more than 3 incidents in a short period of time, then I'm fine for many months.

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      #3
      I am a big believer in getting your gait analyzed by a physical therapist or podiatrist. My foot does roll in and need orthotics to correct. If not wearing them or barefoot, look out.

      I also have to do a lot of calf stretching to avoid cramping in calves, likewise, some exercises to stretch arch of foot.

      I thought the calves cramping was spasticity, turns out I have a few issues with the bone and tendon structure in my feet that may be the culprit.

      Hope you get some answers and relief.
      Kathy
      DX 01/06, currently on Tysabri

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        #4
        Overpronation is when the foot rolls too far inward toward the arch. When your ankle rotates in, the knee and hip follow, and consequently are also strained. I would also suggest you see a podiatrist and/ or PT for further evaluation and to address the problem.

        Here's some additional info ~

        https://www.healthline.com/health/overpronation#outlook

        https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/320383

        Best of luck.
        Kimba

        “When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.” ― Max Planck
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          #5
          Totally agree Kimba. I always believe we need to rule other causes out before saying it is our MS. And I am an overoronator, hence the need for orthotics! And they make a huge difference.
          Kathy
          DX 01/06, currently on Tysabri

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            #6
            Thank you all so much for replying!

            About different causes. I have a beginning of arthriths in both ankles, evenly. But calf cramp for weeks is only in the right ankle, the one that gave in.

            I have very high arches and wear special support insoles since about 2004 or earlier. I have orthotics even in the house shoes (glued also into my slippers and summer sandals), so pronation is always corrected.

            I've never had more than 3 incidents in a short period of time, then I'm fine for many months.
            Good to know!

            What scared me the most: last "ankle out" happened on the stairs, even though I was already scared and cautious. We have a townhouse and stairs are unavoidable. It's not enough that I periodically misjudge the steps and fall down, now the ankle is going to crash me too!

            Man, am I ever pissed off at having to live in this house!

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              #7
              Do you get your orthotics reevaluated regularly? I skipped during the pandemic, which is when I started having more trouble. Finally went and sure enough, both feet had changed some, with the foot I was having a problem in changing more.

              If you have had recent evals, I would still get a physical therapist eval and get exercises to strengthen and stretch impacted areas. Especially important since you have stairs.
              Kathy
              DX 01/06, currently on Tysabri

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                #8
                In addition to your orthotics , a foot and ankle orthosis (brace) may hold the ankle in position and make your steps more stable.

                Sorry to hear about the stairs. I know how dangerous they can be just with MS. I fell numerous while using them in our last house, and was so lucky I didn't break something.

                I hope you find solutions. Best of luck! ​
                Kimba

                “When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.” ― Max Planck

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                  #9
                  Do you get your orthotics reevaluated regularly?
                  I haven't for a while. Last big change in my feet happened post-pregnancy. I thought nothing major can happen in one-two-three years.

                  a foot and ankle orthosis (brace) may hold the ankle in position and make your steps more stable
                  That's a good idea!

                  Thank you all again for replying!

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