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    Strange Symptoms but no O-bands - need advice

    I need a Sherlock Holmes here, I'm so confused.

    Had some symptoms, went to a neuro, had an MRI done. My neuro looked at the MRI images and said "no signs of MS here, go and get treatment for conversion disorder." He didn't even zoom into the images, just looked over at 3" thumbnails.

    Then my neuro received a detailed report from Radiology. They found multiple lesions in both hemispheres, in medulla oblongata, in cerebellum. Radiology report recommended a liquor test done, especially because one lesion looked suspicious (not sure what they meant by that).

    So the neuro called me back into office and did the lumbar puncture. The results were negative, no O-bands found. My neuro basically said "get outta here, you don't have MS. Ok, you have lesions, but they are probably from migraines."

    So... it's all good now, or what? and what do I do with my gazillion symptoms? And the thing is, they are very annoying, and they don't look so awful until I see how many of them I have. I just need help sorting them out.

    1) Can't fit into doorframes or narrow spaces - doors just attack me! :-) I was always covered in bruises, and would perpetually bump into things. My elbows and little toes were constantly hurt from bumping into stuff. Wherever that nightstand, shelf, radiator are - I'm gonna find them and knock them out!

    2) Crawling sensations on legs, tingling, some numbness in my hands

    3) Had trouble drinking from a cup, always gulped some air in, coughed and choked. I actually switched to drinking from a teapot nozzle, I now use a small teapot instead of a cup, and drink water from it.

    4) Short-term memory is messed up - I don't remember some conversations (for example, I ask my dh how his relative is doing after a surgery, and he says "You just asked me that 20 minutes ago and I already told you")

    5) Trouble remembering everyday things. For example, we moved, and for a while I had trouble finding the "Ground Floor" button in the elevator. I wished I could mark it with a neon sticker or something. Every day I'd look at the buttons and think "ok, where is it? which button do I push?" Or, I was knitting a scarf, and then I just pause, sit there in a middle of knitting a row, and think "Ok, and what do I do next..."

    6) A lot of memory is gone in general. I used to have a Wikipedia in my head, now I can't remember anything at all. I was perfect at trivia quizzes, Jeopardy, bar quizzes and the like. All gone, it's not even funny.

    7) I'm constantly searching for words - I'm tired of giving definitions instead of words. It's like I have Alzheimers. "You know, that thing that people take to get to work and to get back. With wheels. A car!"... or, "that thing that people eat with, you know, a round metal thing... a spoon!"

    8)I used to be good at languages and remembering poetry - now I can't even memorize a children's rhyme. Seriously, I printed it out and tried to memorize, and I still cannot sing the whole thing (12 lines and a refrain.)

    9) Also, when I'm looking for a word, it's like I do a search in my brain and instead of searching for a few first letters, I start my search with a wildcard. "Tortellini? Macaroni? Ah! Zamboni!" or "Salutation? Creation? Destination? oh, Inebriation!"

    10) Hand grip strength is gone - I can't open shampoo bottles, pill bottles and the like.

    11) I can't handle small items well - beads, buttons, stuff like that. I'm dropping them way too often.

    12) Sometimes my arms jerk when I'm doing the simplest stuff. For example, I want to get a soup ladle hanging on the wall, and I hit the wall with my extended hand. Or, I'd aim to put a pot on the shelf, and just bang its side against the shelf. (another bad one was when I was in the bathtub and trying to "grate" the old skin off my heels - my hand jerked and the "grater" took a half-inch slice of skin off my left hand, right on the knuckle. That took a while to heel.)

    13) I don't remember faces and names anymore - I used to be good, now I can't for the life of me even remember our new neighbors.

    14) I've lost some hearing in my left ear, an ear-nose-throat doc recommended a full hearing test (had no time for it yet)


    The symptoms were at their worst in winter, then there was sort of a break in spring, and they came back in summer. Now I'm quite fine again. I'm not even afraid of doors anymore! I only bruised my little toe once this week. I can drink from cups again, and don't choke on my morning coffee.

    Please help, I don't know what to do.

    1) is it all in my head, should I stop being a hypochondriac?

    2) ok, brain lesions are real, but they are from bad migraines. I should just deal with memory loss and feeling like an idiot?

    3) see another specialist?

    If anyone has read this far, a heartfelt THANK YOU!!!!

    #2
    You just described me...

    I also have lesions on my brain and my proteins in my CSF came back high but not abnormally so. My blood panel never came back so I'm not sure how my neuro got to her diagnosis but she had a nurse call me and say that it looks good for now, probably not MS, but if any new symptoms come up to call her. But for now just "watch for anything new". I'm going to consult another neuro. I'm tired of feeling like I am constantly one step behind where I used to be. My neuro didn't even tell me what she thought the lesions were, just that they were there.

    I know I haven't helped much but I wanted you to know that you aren't alone.

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      #3
      Take your medical records and your MRI's to another neurologist.

      There are many things that might be causing your symptoms and you didn't say that you've had all the testing you need to rule them in or out. Symptoms can tell where the problem probably is and where to start looking, but symptoms don't make a diagnosis. A diagnosis depends on the proper testing and it isn't clear what kinds of tests you've had other than an MRI and an LP.

      You need a neurologist who will look for more than just MS and to help with symptoms. The one you saw was apparently not the right guy. Time to move on.

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        #4
        Neurologists- MS Specialist makes a difference

        Hello..
        I am sorry to hear about your symptoms, pain and problems. I know how frustrating it can be when you want and need answers.

        I just finally been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis 11/01/13 by a second opinion doctor who specializes in multiple sclerosis, within 5 mins of viewing my Mri dvd records I brought him he was able to confirm it. I am SO thankful a MS friend of mine prompted me to find a MS Specialist because I am SO relieved that I have closure of what I have and can move forward with the proper treatment and medicine.

        My other Neuro had me in a holding pattern for 4 months while in constant pain, and wouldn't or couldn't tell me what I had/have. Then he tells me he can't prescribe me pain medicine but he's prescribed me prior for my symptoms that was also pain. I just didn't get it.. He was always insinuating MS but would not actually say it or diagnose me. I don't know what his deal was but I was not his specialty.

        I would go to the National Society MS website and look for a MS Specialist in your area. They definitely make a difference cause that's their specialty. Don't get discouraged, get encouraged, you deserve a peace of mind & closure.

        Good-luck & take care..
        I have MS but it does not define me..This is a new journey, new lifestyle, lifetime of meds. Bring it on, I'm pumped..

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          #5
          Thank you all for replying to me! I can't really talk to people around me, I don't want my family to get truly worried. It's enough that I'm on this rollercoaster for now.

          It's good to see your suggestions and get validation. I'm dragging my feet about finding another neuro - I think I'm afraid of another "get lost, you don't have anything" reaction. I do know something's wrong with me, although now some of it seems like a bad dream. Physically I'm good now, the mental part didn't improve much. So I just dread hearing "it's all in your head" again.

          I'm also kind of subconsciously hoping that if I wait and ignore, the problem will go away. Pathetic, right? One day I want to find out NOW what is wrong with me, and to get it treated. Another day and I don't even have the energy to dream about that. Sigh.

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            #6
            This is me too!

            Hi..You are NOT alone! Almost everything you say is me to a T. I just landed here, and posted in new here thread. I am not as eloquent a writer as you though. But you describe me! I am sitting here waiting too. Waiting for a definite, waiting for not to be looked at like nut job, it's all in my head you know. (and in a way they are right, white lesions and all! lol) Waiting for my next neuro followup, and hoping that something happens between now and then so I can get off this roller-coaster or buckle up and get ready for the ride! I hate the stuck in limbo part. I wasn't going to tell my husband, he found out and got mad at me, my thoughts were the same, why tell him, we don't know anything yet, and it could be nothing, maybe it was a bacterial infection and it's all over. (Somehow I doubt that.) So, for now, he prefers to live in the world of 'she'll be fine.' I am the ROCK of this family, the glue that hold everything together. Got a feeling you are too! Whatever this is, it's good to know that we are not alone!

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              #7
              The important thing is for you to make the appointment. Do it. Make notes of your symptoms for the doc until you see him/her. If nothing comes of the doctor and your symptoms persist, find another. What you need is some support for whatever is ailing you. Persist, you know your body best.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Cookie_Crumbles View Post
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                So the neuro called me back into office and did the lumbar puncture. The results were negative, no O-bands found. My neuro basically said "get outta here, you don't have MS.


                If anyone has read this far, a heartfelt THANK YOU!!!!
                My honesty and apology: I did not read the whole thing, it was a lot to take in, but I had to share my experience:

                - I did not have O Bands.
                - I had "non-specific" lesions on the brain MRI
                --- I have MS.

                I trust my neuro -- she is a specialist at the Yale Division of MS, so she knows her stuff, *and* I trust her. She explained a lot to me that I did not find online:

                - The "non-specific" lesions on my brain: she explained if I had been in a car accident and they did an MRI, they would not think MS when they looked at those.
                - However, because I had Optic Neuritis, some history of arm weakness, and non-specific brain lesions .. she ordered the lumbar puncture and MRIs of the thoracic and cervical spine.

                So ...

                I have MS-specific lesions on my thoracic spine, they kind of sealed the deal. We seemed to have caught this early, and she said the lack of O-Bands is not concerning ... she is confident that if they looked again in the future, the bands would be there.

                The lumbar puncture was good at ruling out MS Mimickers, which helped seal the diagnosis.

                So -- if you haven't already, I'd get a good look at your spine/find a MS-specializing neuro who will do an MRI of your spine, and make sure that the mimickers have been ruled out.

                Best of luck to you!
                I'm Lori: Mommy to 2 little girls, wife of a supportive husband, and friend to good people. Oh, and I was diagnosed with MS on 10/17/2013. I hope that last part always comes last.

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                  #9
                  Thank you all again for writing here!

                  I forgot to mention that I had the VEP test before the MRI, looking at black and white patterns, and the doc said I was fine. Whew. But...
                  I'll go and make another appointment, with another neuro. I don't trust this one, that's correct. And I want to be taken seriously. At least at the last visit I wasn't given a lecture again on how good psyhiatrists are for convresion disorder, so that's a positive, sort of. But I'm going to look for another specialist, that's for sure. Hopefully we'll find out whatever it is that made me bump into all the furniture corners I could find.

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