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    AspiedDude's Limboland Thread

    Hey, I'm Aspiedude for those of you who encountered me in the intro thread. My first neuro appointment is in 2.5 days on a Thursday Morning at 8:30 in the morning and in advance of this I have typed up this document to give to my neuro so he knows what is going on because my memory has gotten so bad over the past couple of weeks when I went to the regular doc last week about my fatigue I couldn't remember half of my symptoms.

    Symptoms and Time Frame Accounting

    • Fatigue (onset approx. 4-6 weeks ago) – quality of symptom: sleeping MUCH more than usual i.e. sometimes sleeping days at a time, slept so much I went 2 weeks without showering and brushing teeth. Also, fatigue is not just sleeping but general lack of energy. I went to Target to make a purchase, walked one length of the store and was so exhausted my body felt like it was melting, I could barely get back to the front to check out.

    This interferes with my life to a very severe extent. I spent a Monday at classes from 9 am to 8 pm and slept all day the next day from 10 pm to 3:30 pm the next day from being worn out. My fatigue has caused problems in taking care of myself. I was admitted to MHU not because of mental illness but because I wasn’t able to shower, brush teeth, or eat in any manner that provided nutrients. Just standing in front of the microwave while it cooks a 5 minute frozen dinner leaves me exhausted. I can barely lift my legs to walk up the stairs to my second floor apartment (one single flight). I struggle to do the basics like clean my cat’s litter, get changed in clothes, shower every other day, brush teeth daily, take medicine, etc.

    When I am sitting in classes in the chairs I am exhausted try to hold my body up. Thankfully at home I have a recliner that is supportive and I find myself relaxing into it. I find myself falling asleep at random times when reading my school books or typing assignments on it, despite drinking several caffeinated beverages a day and taking Concerta ER 27 mg daily. I also find myself drifting off while driving. Strangely, my sleep at night is often difficult to obtain and rather fitful. Update: week of appointment. I slept all day Sunday and had a really hard time waking up for my 10 am class on Monday morning. The fatigue is ongoing. It makes it hard to keep up with school. I didn’t intend to sleep all of Sunday but my body couldn’t help it.

    • Cognitive Disturbances- (onset approx. 2-3 weeks ago) – quality of symptoms: I began by experiencing word finding difficulties an example of which was not knowing the word for “whipped cream” when I was out to breakfast with my mom and had hot chocolate and pointed and gestured and finally said “fluffies”. Other difficulties have included increasing short term memory loss as well as trouble explaining myself and thinking clearly. I am normally a highly intelligent young man so this is unusual. Monday 2/4 I awoke and found myself unable to remember how to dial the phone for several minutes. I find myself more recently having trouble putting sentences together. Update: week of appointment. This symptom is getting really bad.

    • Visual/Eye Problems- (onset approx. 3-4 weeks ago) – quality of symptoms: Symptoms began as blurry vision that has remained rather consistent although the intensity of the blurriness has intensified somewhat and has been experienced as a sensation of brief doubling on occasion. Approximately 2 weeks ago I noticed that my eyes were really starting to hurt, not on the surface, but rather in the rear where the optic nerve is attached.

    • Coordination- (onset decrease in function over past 4 weeks) – symptoms: Symptoms have included a noticeable deterioration in fine motor coordination over the past month of so noticeable in such ways as trouble with pill containers, writing with pens, pencils, etc. as well as typing the wrong letters intended. I will often find myself chatting with a friend online on Facebook and while my brain is meaning to hit a certain set of words, my fingers will go ahead and type a completely different set of words. No tremor present since the beginning and continuation of the namadol for the androgenic tremor.

    • Cramping/pain- (onset – continuous over past 6 weeks or so) – Symptoms: I have developed this cramping pain in different parts of my body that is very hard to deal with. For example, I will be writing, and my hand will cramp up and it won’t relax, or I will be driving and both of my arms will cramp up and just not relax. It’s different from the kind of pain I deal with from my fall, which is an intense but not crampy. These cramps are increasing in intensity and number of locations (i.e. spreading over my body). Update: week of appointment. This symptom is increased a lot and the cramps/spasms are really bad and all over my body.

    • Bladder issues – (onset- ????) – Symptoms – I have bladder hesitancy where I often have to really force myself to pee. I’m also pretty sure there are some retention issues, as I usually feel like I’m not getting everything out. I’ve been checked for UTIs. Relevant to this was a period last winter when I was in the hospital where I for some reason lost the ability to urinate on my own altogether because of retention and needed to be catheterized intermitantly. The cause was not determined. There was no UTI.

    • Bowel issues- (onset- ???) Symptoms- I have bowel urgency that persists no matter the state of my bowel movements .i.e. no matter whether I’m constipated, normal, whatever I always am rushing off to the bathroom to have a bowel movement.

    • Balance- (onset approx. 4 weeks ago) – symptoms: My balance has gotten noticeably worse. When taking the stairs or walking on uneven ground I feel very very unsteady.

    • Dizziness- (onset approx. 2 weeks ago) symptoms: My latest onset symptom was my latest issue onset a constant feeling of dizziness and lightheadedness.


    Notes: When I first went on my HIV meds (winter 2009) I experienced a period of a couple months of symptoms a lot of which remind me of what I’m going through now. The symptoms went away when we stopped the HIV meds. I take those same meds now, although I’ve been on them for a long time with no problems. Originally we thought it was a psychosomatic reaction because I wasn’t ready to deal with the HIV diagnosis. I am wondering if somehow improving my immune system through HIV medication could be triggering an autoimmune condition? Could that previous time have been MS flare 1 and this flare 2.


    Hopefully this extensive keeping track of my experiences will help the doc know what to look for. It took forever to type because whenever I go to type something, I have to retype about every third word because my hands hit the wrong letters.

    Whatever is going on with me, I hope to find an answer. I'm glad I found this forum.

    #2
    Aspidude,

    I hope your appointment goes well. At least you are well prepared.

    Have you had an MRI done? That's probably the next step.

    Let us know how it goes!
    When I can laugh at my experiences, I own them and they don't own me!

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      #3
      So I was in my therapy session today and my therapist pointed out that I do have a tremor. Oh great, time to modify my symptom list. I guess I just hadn't noticed it. I am so annoyed with all of this going on I just can't wait to figure out what is going on so I can get to the root of the issues and hopefully find some treatments for some of these symptoms.

      Aspiedude

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        #4
        Did you have your appointment this morning? Looks like you were very well prepared with your detailed symptom list. My husband says I need to put something like that together before my next appointment, because I am always forgetting something when it actually comes time to list my symptoms, and of course when I'm nervous, as I always have been with doctors, my memory is even worse.

        Let us know how it went.

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          #5
          My appointment went semi-well, I guess. The doc seems to think I might have some sort of sleep disorder more likely than MS. I suspect he may be one of those types of docs that believes people with HIV can't get MS because of the immune issues, although I used my college's access to research databases and yes, people with HIV can get MS, although it happens when the immune system is reconstituted, which mine has been for awhile.

          He ordered a c-spine MRI WITHOUT CONTRAST, although I asked specifically about contrast, because I have a weird pain in my back when I bend my neck forward. Despite giving him my extensive list of symptoms and asking specifically about MS and my primary care asking specifically MS he didn't order any other areas of MRI.

          Oh, and he ordered a B-12 level. Also, I will be doing an at home sleep study to try and figure out if I have sleep apnea to a degree that it would be making me tired.

          I'm a bit frustrated that I didn't have the guts to say "hey, I really think I have MS, can you do a full brain, c-spine, and spinal MRI with and without gadulinium contrast to see if I have any lesions?"

          My next appointment is in FOUR WEEKS.... UGH!!! But he did say if something came up before then to contact him. I think that means he's open to seeing me sooner if my disaster continues, lol, so I'm not hopeless.

          Thanks for the support everyone!

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            #6
            Hang in there! Difficult, I know!!! Can you get an appointment with an MS specialist? (Meaning a neurologist who specializes in MS) If so, do that! Even if the appointment is months out, do it!

            (((HUGS)))
            MS - diagnosed 2/05/2013

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              #7
              I had a test of the nerve conduction in my arms related to a wrist injury this week and I took that opportunity to ask the same neurologist (who the nerve conduction test was with) why he wasn't doing a Brain and full spine MRI with gadalium contrast if we're concerned about MRI and I learned the sad real reason. INSURANCE. I have Medicaid and at this point all he is able to justify for an MRI is a c-spine due to the tingling in my back I get when I bend my head down.

              I'm not sure if he's just to lazy to fight my insurance given the huge list I printed above, but Medicaid (which I have) is notorious for rejections and he said he'd rather start small and then go back for further tests as indicated. I'm starting to like his reasoning.

              Well today was the MRI. My fatigue is so bad I even fell asleep in the MRI machine despite the weird positioning and all the racket. Beat that! (well sorry, its not a competition, but that clearly means my fatigue is bad.)

              I've also started having weird vision things and sometime headaches. Dr. L. did an at home sleep study of my oxygenation to see if that would explain my fatigue. No news there yet. Oh, and I got one of those weird tingly/itchy/painful shooters in my left leg the other day. OUCH!

              That's my update.

              Aspiedude

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                #8
                You should have your vitamin D and magnesium tested, too. The magnesium helps your bowels and the vitamin D will help you overall (fatigue and such). Good luck

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                  #9
                  Hugs and Prayers

                  Aspiedude,

                  Sending prayers and giving you ((((hugs))))

                  Your detailed description should be able to help them.
                  Praying for some answers. You have already been through enough.

                  When we have answers, we can deal with things alot better. At least the road is less bumpy. Praying for a smooth ride.
                  STR

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by JerryD View Post
                    You should have your vitamin D and magnesium tested, too. The magnesium helps your bowels and the vitamin D will help you overall (fatigue and such). Good luck
                    My infectious disease doctor tested my vitamin D awhile back and it was relatively normal. Also, when I was in the ER the other day they checked all of my electrolyte levels, which I think magnesium is one of them because I hadn't been eating properly in about two weeks nor drinking properly and things were okay. But I'll bring these two things up with Dr. L. when I see him.

                    Ohh, and just in case I didn't mention it already my Vitamin B-12 was within normal limits.

                    Thanks for the prayers and good thoughts everyone. I send them right back at everyone who needs them. Struggling is no fun and we all can use mutual love and support.

                    AspieDude

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