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    Feel completely dismissed; maybe I'm crazy??

    I had my first neuro appointment last Tuesday, and things did not go quite as I expected. I was asked to fill out a four page questionaire about all my symptoms, which I was happy to do. The nurse was very nice and helped me get started on it, then I finished it on my own while waiting for the dr. He comes in and says, "So you heard the good news about your MRI, right?" I told him that the nurse at my GP's office told me it "looked fine" over the phone, but had set up this appointment with him.

    So he sits down at the computer, pulls it up, starts flashing through images and tells me it is clean, good news. Then asks, "So why are you here?" Not sure if it was the way he said it, my mood at the time, or what, but I got emotional and didn't know what to say. So I just said, well, my dr told me to come here. And then I mentioned that my GP had thought there was a possibility that I may have MS because of my symptoms.

    The neuro then went back to the MRI, flashes through some pics again and says that my brain looks great, there is no way I have MS. I'm looking at the pic that is currently on the screen, one shot from after the contrast was injected, and I asked about a couple of white spots I could see, very small. He emlarges, takes a closer look, then says it's nothing. He then tells me again, you don't have MS, that's good news. I said yes it is, but I do have other symptoms that I'm wondering about. I then try handing him the questionaire that the nurse had me fill out and he doesn't want it. Sets it down, and says no, you tell me.

    WTH??

    So I then tell him about the ophthamologist saying I had had a mild case of ON, and I gave him the letter from my ophthamologist and the print outs of the visual field exam. He starts reading the letter out loud, looking at me strangely from above it, and a couple of times says, I have no idea what this means. When he's done, he tells me that no, the ophthamologist was wrong, there was absolutely no way I could have had ON because it didn't show on the MRI. Then he says again, I've given you good news, why are you wanting to stay here.

    At this point, I'm almost in tears. I don't even remember most of my symptoms, and can barely bring myself to talk. I finally get out that I have been having increasing problems with my balance and about the stabbing pains in the side of my face that my GP thinks is trigeminal neuralgia.

    At this point, he asks me to sit on the exam table and so I think, finally, he's actually going to examine me and address my concerns. He looked at my eyes, checked reflex at my knees and two spots on my arms, then started asking me about my facial pain. I tell him, then he asks if there are certain triggers, things that always set of the stabbing pain. Well, no, not ALWAYS. It does happen most of the time when I am rinsing/swishing water in my mouth after brushing my teeth, and if I am chewing something very hard (I've ended up modifying what I eat so I don't have this as much) but it happens other times as well when I can't predict it. He then tells me that I don't have "real" trigeminal neuralgia. What?? Ok...

    He goes and sits at his computer and tells me it was nice to meet me and he was glad he was able to give me good news. I ask him if there is anything that can be done for the facial pain, even if he doesn't think it is real TN. I'm practically begging him at this point for medication and in tears. No, I'm not proud of that moment, but I thought at least if I'm getting nothing else out of this appointment, maybe I could get something to help alleviate the TN attacks. My daily life is seriously suffering at this point. He finally agreed to prescribe two months of oxcarbazepin, 150mg x three per day.
    It has been six days on this, and so far, it is not helping.

    So, he never even looked at the paperwork I filled out, never listened to all my symptoms and my story, and never did any type of exam to check my balance, even though that is the one thing, aside from the face pain, that I mentioned specifically.
    He then told me at the end of the appointment that I should be grateful I am young and healthy, and not like his usual patients who have alzheimers and ALS.

    So, now I'm at a loss really, of what to do. I've been with my family dr for 16 years, and have always really liked him and respected his opinion. But two years ago he moved to a network of drs that I really do not like how things are run anymore. I called on Friday to ask for a referral to a different neurologist, but the only other two options they gave me are both in the same group as the one I saw.

    Am I crazy to want another opinion? Is what that neuro saying really true, and it's not MS because the brain MRI was clear except for a couple of white spots (which he never even explained to me what those were). I guess after researching I was expecting a more thorough exam, him wanting to know all my symptoms and when they ocurred, and possibly more testing. Do I WANT more testing and more dr visits. No, really I don't. But if that's what it takes to figure out what is wrong with me, then yes, I will do it.

    He seemed to have pretty much made up his mind about me before he even walked in the room.

    So I guess now I may have to changed my primary/family dr, so that I can get a referral to a different neurologist.

    Or just give up trying to find answers for now.....

    #2
    Hi Geekerbell,

    I'd go see my doctor and ask for a referral outside of this group. There's got to be a way he can do this.

    I'm so sorry you had a lousy appointment. I'd be discouraged too, although it does resemble the path that many MSers have had.

    If its not possible to see another Neurologist, I'd insist on a new appointment and insist that he spend time looking at all your symptoms.

    Drs are not Gods! You're allowed to voice your displeasure with them. It just might give you your proper dx.

    Good luck to you!
    When I can laugh at my experiences, I own them and they don't own me!

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      #3
      Hi,

      I was almost in tears when I read your post, unfortunatly I had a similar experience with my first neuro! It is very frustrating when docs just brush us off just because it's not "screaming" MS!!

      I would go and get a second opinion if that makes you feel better. When I went to second neuro (MS specialist) he wasn't as rude as first, was kind and listened. But even he looked at my MRI and within seconds said.."well it's not MS"
      fast forward a few more months..I have now been diagnosed with TN from emergency doc and neuro.

      However my newest MRI did not change (a few lesions smaller then 5mm). Even after having TN for 2 months!!

      When I went back to my MS specialist he tested my reflexes and saw a change...and is now interested in seeing me, and will be doing further testing

      To make a long story short...get the second opinion..but sometimes even though we feel things, sometimes our bodies aren't giving the docs the signs that they need.

      Hang in there..we feel your frustration!!

      minnie76

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        #4
        I'm sorry to hear you had such a bad experience at your appt. I wish there was a group of people w/ ms who could go on dr appts with others to help them thru the process and give support.

        Like the other posts said, an ms dx does take time and unfortunately that my mean you come accross drs who don't get your sx.

        I would get another opinion...you deserve to have an answer to your sx...hang in there!!1

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          #5
          Geekerbell,
          I won't mince words... SECOND OPINION ! THIRD OR FOURTH ! I've had 4, unfortunately not one of them disagreed with the first one. And don't neglect thorough blood tests. They are critically important.
          I don't know where you are but I would find a university neurologist nearby... or maybe not so nearby. It took me 5 months of waiting but I did get to see one of the 'top' guns in my region. And it turns out that he was a teacher to my current neurologist ! Good luck

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            #6
            First of all, you are not crazy. I agree with the others. You know your body. I obviously don't know if you have MS or not. Heck, I don't even know if I do, but what I do know is that if you don't feel well, you have to keep pushing. Otherwise, you will never get answers. We cannot sit back and allow doctors to dismiss us. Even the best doctors don't always "get it". Only you know how you feel and if you feel there is a problem, you owe it to yourself to get a second or even third opinion. Of course we don't WANT MS or anything else for that matter but it is important to know if in fact there is a problem, what it is,and how to proceed. Hang in there!

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              #7
              Ohhh Emmm Geee.

              These are ALL of my appointments to a T.

              No you are not crazy and you have highly valid concerns.

              I have been treated the same way and my GP says that if I don't like the doctor that sees me or of the dx doesn't fit that I'm to shop around.

              Sorry hun!
              Take care,
              swingingwillow
              Limbo lander on hold with a fast busy signal...

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                #8
                This is almost identical to how my first neuro appt went! Except, he did my exam first, and said he thought it was ms, and if it wasn't then he didn't even have a guess at what else it could be.

                Then he flipped through the mri at lightening speed, said it was fine and that I don't have MS or TN.

                Next appt he completely ignored the MS symptoms, said my TN was just a headache and he didn't need to see me.

                I asked my GP for a referral to the nearest teaching hospital and she is willing to do it, so I"m just waiting on that referral to come.

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                  #9
                  You need an opinion from an MS neurologist.
                  Not all neurologists know MS.
                  Some neurologists have a good knowledge about it because they are truly interested in it.

                  My neuro surgeon insisted that I see an MS neurologist to rule out or confirm that I have M.S.

                  I am hoping that he will rule this out.
                  I am negative for the brain MRI (I only have two baby little spots, not indicative of M.S.)
                  My lumbar puncture was very, very, clear and had not bands or whatever.
                  My blood work did not show I had M.S.
                  My MTI's of the spine showed lesions, not sure why. These lesions could be M.S. lesions.
                  My MS doctor wants me to take one more brain scan. The first one I took in September. This next one will be taken in March. This way, they can compare the two, since they will be 6 months apart.

                  I am so glad that the M.S. neurologist believes me and is willing to go to great lengths to make sure that I have or do not have M.S.

                  If I do not have it, I will be happy.
                  If I do have it, I will decide if I need to take the various meds that may slow down the progression.

                  For me, I need to know.

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                    #10
                    Thanks for being so supportive...

                    I did not realize how long my original post was until looking back at it today. But thank you to everyone who read it and took time to respond. I feel so much better knowing I'm not alone. And like someone said, I'm not necessarily looking for a diagnosis of MS. But I know there is something not right with my body, and I want to know what it is and how to treat it.

                    I did call my family dr again yesterday afternoon and tried to explain to her why I wanted a referral to a different neurologist. The nurse again told me they couldn't refer out of their group. So I'm going to try a different approach. Find a neurologist I hopefully will like and who will listen, and see if they can set up my appointment then request my primary to sign off on the referral. I was able to do this for my son's neurologist that we had been seeing for years, after our family dr switched clinics, even though he is not in the network.

                    Thanks!

                    Laura

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