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    Overflow incontinence and female

    Ok so I find information on google but it seems to mainly deal with men having this type. I have also seen posts on the forums but not in details.
    I have overflow incontinence and am scheduled for my lumbar puncture and my urodynamics video tomorrow. I've already been proven to have overflow by checking my bladder and the bladder seems fine no cystocele needed.

    I don't have the urge to go more like my stomach feels a little upset and so I go to relieve myself. This started about 3 months ago. Upon trying it can take 7seconds to 17seconds to go. I do leak but only luckily so far about 2tbsp a day. Not with coughing just randomly leaks.

    So I have a few questions.
    1. Once I get the uncomfortable test done and it confirms its Neurological does that mean cathing only?
    2. IF meds are an option which one works best for you?
    3. What if anything has helped relieve this problem? Kegel devices???
    4. Has anyone finally been given the dx of MS on the results of their Urodynamics test? From what I read the only 3 things that cause this are obstruction, Nerve damage, or weak muscles.

    5. During the urodynamics test what if I have an accident with #2. I do have problems sometimes with that end...do they test that part too?

    #2
    I can only give you my experience. I had the test done and the findings were retention and urgency. At the time, the doctor suggested a pill (I don't remember which one).

    Of course, I blew it off (it wasn't really THAT bad, right?) until I ended up in the ER because I had retention so bad I couldn't urinate at all. (Don't get to that point-it is extremely painful). I had to wear a bag for about a week while my bladder recovered. Then I was told to cath 2x daily (or more if I felt it necessary).

    I was also put on flomax (the generic, tamsulosin) which has helped so much! I now self cath in the mornings and before bed just to make sure my bladder is empty.

    I still have to be careful and I have been fighting recurrent UTIs as of late (I need to drink more water) but things are much better than they were. Coffee and alcohol are big triggers for me and make my bladder very twitchy so I try to stay away from both.

    I was not given my MS diagnosis from the urodynamics test or my trip to the ER but an observant urologist sent me for a spine series MRI because my symptoms were not normal.

    With the Urodynamics test itself, it was not pleasant but not painful. I suffer from extreme constipation but the results didn't mention anything about that "part".

    Hope some of this helps :-)

    Laurie

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      #3
      Thank you laurie!
      I didn't find anything out because this time the test was normal. I did put that in my description of symptoms that I tend to hold urine during a flare. Also all the other symptoms tend to stay during the flare.

      You are right in that they don't measure anything for #2. They do stick a tube/balloon up there but it doesn't measure anything. So if anyone else had that question there is the answer.

      He also said that yes Overflow incontinence with women is vary rare. He said the test could change due to flairs and maybe when we do it again at a later time the results may show that. He still had no answer to leaking.

      Other than that the test was yes very uncomfortable mildly embarrassing.

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        #4
        Update to issues

        I know I'm not on but in a blue moon but it's just too hard to deal with everything. I never got an answer but still have issues. I did pelvic therapy for about 8months. I apparently have spasms that are very high in my pelvic floor. My brain controls them not me yet somehow I still don't have MS. I swear my male neuros just don't believe my female specialists. So anyhow it's been over a year. I have finally gotten better with the number #2 issues. #1 comes and goes with issues. Lately it has flared up again. I haven't had an accident in a while so that is nice. Still having issues going though. Just an update to the madness.

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          #5
          I do not know your exact issues, like have you ever looked into Botox for your bladder?
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            #6
            Originally posted by smittyditty View Post
            I know I'm not on but in a blue moon but it's just too hard to deal with everything. I never got an answer but still have issues. I did pelvic therapy for about 8months. I apparently have spasms that are very high in my pelvic floor. My brain controls them not me yet somehow I still don't have MS. I swear my male neuros just don't believe my female specialists. So anyhow it's been over a year. I have finally gotten better with the number #2 issues. #1 comes and goes with issues. Lately it has flared up again. I haven't had an accident in a while so that is nice. Still having issues going though. Just an update to the madness.


            do you have any other neuro symptoms or just a bladder issue?

            my bladder problem sounds very similar to yours. I googled it for the longest time and became very confused because it said it usually happens in guys. I haven't heard much on this forum about female overflow

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              #7
              Originally posted by Shannan23 View Post
              I googled it for the longest time and became very confused because it said it usually happens in guys.
              Hi Shannan:
              I think you're confused because you've misinterpreted what "usually happens in guys" means.

              What the medical articles say is that overflow incontinence is "more common" in men. That doesn't mean that it's rare in women. If, out of 100 people with overflow incontinence, 60 are men and 40 are women, the 40 women are not rare or unusual.

              That's not an exact percentage, but the point is that overflow incontinence in women isn't rare, and none of the medical articles say it's rare or unusual in women. It's just more common in men.

              It sounds like your confusion is coming from a belief that "less common" means rare or unusual so you don't understand how you could have it. But it isn't rare or unusual, and it's not surprising for a woman to have it. Lots of women do. I just don't think they make a habit of talking about what kind of incontinence they have. Your urologist should be able to tell you more.

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                #8
                having to self-cath maybe

                I have problems with an overactive bladder mostly at night; having to get up 4-5 times. I am seeing a urologist and have tried a few different medications which work for most people but have done nothing for me. The urologist has suggested botox injections (yes, the same botox for facial wrinkles) which seems to have good results but there is a small chance of the injections causing an inability to urinate and necessitating self catherization. He says only about a 2% chance of that happening which seems like good odds but I don't think I have good luck.

                I am very worried about having to do this. Does a nurse show you how to do it? Can everyone manage it? I have such poor manual dexterity that I think it would be impossible for me. Also, it is terribly embarrasing. Can it be done at a restaurant rest room? How about an office since I work part time. Can it be done very discreetly? Do you need all kinds of supplies?

                Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks so much. Have a good day.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by maxi View Post

                  I am very worried about having to do this. Does a nurse show you how to do it? Can everyone manage it? I have such poor manual dexterity that I think it would be impossible for me. Also, it is terribly embarrasing. Can it be done at a restaurant rest room? How about an office since I work part time. Can it be done very discreetly? Do you need all kinds of supplies?

                  Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks so much. Have a good day.
                  Hi maxi,

                  A nurse will teach you how to self-cath. You do need some manual dexterity to do it, so it all depends how much you have to work with. It takes some practice, but once you learn how to do it, you'll find it liberating to finally have some control over your bladder. It took me about a month to learn how to do it proficiently, but everyone is different. There are children that self-cath, so figured if they could learn how to do it, so could I.

                  It's really not embarrassing, just another way to empty your bladder, and no one will ever know (unless for some reason you let them stand there and watch you). It can be done discreetly in any restroom. There are different kinds of catheters, but the supplies can also fit easily and discreetly in your purse. (Catheter, antibacterial wipe, and lubricant - I don't even need the lubricant anymore.).

                  If you were to ever receive Botox for your bladder, because of the risk of retention, you would still need to know how to self-cath.

                  Best of luck
                  Last edited by Kimba22; 08-09-2015, 04:37 PM.
                  Kimba

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