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    #31
    Originally posted by Temagami View Post
    I believe food matters because what you eat determines which bacteria thrive in your gut and the gut-brain axis is key to how your brain is doing. Feed the good bacteria and starve the bad. Your immune system has a grand role in your gut so its all connected. Then theres the molecular mimicry and leaky gut so if you eat gluten and your GI tract cells have loose junctions, then proteins enter the bloodstream and cause a reaction from your immune system.

    Ive started on a grain bowl kick- quinoa, kale, a protein, maybe mango or beets or sweet peppers. Change up the dressing and youve got something new every day. Dont forget to massage the kale!
    How is your diet going? Have you noticed any changes in your health?

    Originally posted by Golgotha View Post
    I'm curious: Have you read Dr. Gundry's thoughts/theories as he explains in the Plant Paradox book?
    I still haven't read the book, but I looked at Dr. Gundry's Food Pyramid. I follow some of his suggestions but not all of them. Some of the foods that Dr. Gundry recommends that we avoid are the very same foods that my functional medicine encourages me to eat.

    I eat healthy fats and lots of vegetables, including cruciferous ones.
    I don't do 24 hour fasts, but, fairly often, I try to do intermittent fasts of 14-16 hours. That's really not very difficult. I just don't eat after supper and I have a late breakfast. Even that is supposed to offer health benefits.
    I eat lots of nuts. I don't eat wheat. I don't eat peanuts or cashews, but I don't avoid pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds or chia seeds.
    At home, I stick to wild-caught, free-range and grass-fed fish, poultry, eggs and meat. I do eat them in moderation, a few times per week. When I eat out, it's not available at restaurants. I don't eat dairy.
    I actually eat a lot of fruit, which he doesn't recommend. And, I don't stick to in-season fruits, or to green unripe fruits.
    I don't drink alcohol at all. My husband is a total abstainer, and that just would have been a deal-breaker for him, so I decided that he was more important. I sometimes try to include red grapes instead. I'd like to start eating them daily, instead of red wine.
    I avoid bread, cereal and flour, aspartame and usually sugar. I eat rice (brown rice at home, but white rice occasionally when I eat out). I consume honey and maple syrup occasionally. I don't avoid the forbidden vegetables.
    I avoid the forbidden oils and I don't eat many grains.

    Originally posted by sarabeach123 View Post
    I love reading your posts! I think there is not nearly enough emphasis on functional medicine. The whole body works together and it makes no sense to me that we are so focused on isolation of issues when treating a person.
    Thanks, Sara. Please share what alternative strategies you're using and your successes. :-)
    ~ Faith
    MSWorld Volunteer -- Moderator since JUN2012
    (now a Mimibug)

    Symptoms began in JAN02
    - Dx with RRMS in OCT03, following 21 months of limbo, ruling out lots of other dx, and some "probable stroke" and "probable CNS" dx for awhile.
    - In 2008, I was back in limbo briefly, then re-dx w/ MS: JUL08
    .

    - Betaseron NOV03-AUG08; Copaxone20 SEPT08-APR15; Copaxone40 APR15-present
    - Began receiving SSDI / LTD NOV08. Not employed. I volunteer in my church and community.

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      #32
      Originally posted by Mamabug View Post
      Dr. G -- functional medicine, Nov. 10 (Appt. #18)
      ...
      - Recommended seeing a chiropractor to see if a few adjustments could improve my hip flexor muscles.
      I had an appointment with Dr. J, chiropractor, last week. He discovered some big problems with alignment in my hips -- right hip too far forward, left hip too far back. He adjusted my hips and some other things. There is significant improvement in strength, particularly in my right hip that was so weak.
      ~ Faith
      MSWorld Volunteer -- Moderator since JUN2012
      (now a Mimibug)

      Symptoms began in JAN02
      - Dx with RRMS in OCT03, following 21 months of limbo, ruling out lots of other dx, and some "probable stroke" and "probable CNS" dx for awhile.
      - In 2008, I was back in limbo briefly, then re-dx w/ MS: JUL08
      .

      - Betaseron NOV03-AUG08; Copaxone20 SEPT08-APR15; Copaxone40 APR15-present
      - Began receiving SSDI / LTD NOV08. Not employed. I volunteer in my church and community.

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        #33
        Update on two factors:

        Went two weeks sans supplements and found myself napping from 5-6 PM and then going to bed by 8. Went back on supplements and that stopped- no nap, make it to 9-10. Im thinking it may have been the ALA, ubiquinol or PQQ or combo.

        Decided to see if I really have a reaction to gluten. Went to grocery, bought two whole grain rolls, stuffed myself. That night when I went to brush my teeth, I noticed a line of tiny pimples on each side of my chin as if following a blood vessel and my chin was blotchy. Gone the next morning. So, I am convinced that my body and gluten do not mix. This was after going gluten free since 2011 and the reaction happened within hours. Our bodies really are quite sensitive.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Temagami View Post
          Our bodies really are quite sensitive.
          Yes; they are!

          Thanks for the update.
          ~ Faith
          MSWorld Volunteer -- Moderator since JUN2012
          (now a Mimibug)

          Symptoms began in JAN02
          - Dx with RRMS in OCT03, following 21 months of limbo, ruling out lots of other dx, and some "probable stroke" and "probable CNS" dx for awhile.
          - In 2008, I was back in limbo briefly, then re-dx w/ MS: JUL08
          .

          - Betaseron NOV03-AUG08; Copaxone20 SEPT08-APR15; Copaxone40 APR15-present
          - Began receiving SSDI / LTD NOV08. Not employed. I volunteer in my church and community.

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            #35
            Quote from Wahls' Protocol

            ..........

            When chronic disease is the result of a deficiency, drugs arent going to solve the problem. As Im sure you realize, multiple sclerosis is not a deficiency of the latest multiple-sclerosis-disease-modifying drug like Copaxone, just as fatigue is not a deficiency of wakefulness-promoting drugs like Provigil or even caffeine, and depression is not a deficiency of antidepressants like Prozac.

            No, these problems are not deficiencies of drugs, but they are triggered by deficiencies in your cells that lead to broken biochemistry and impaired signaling between your cells.

            When you look at chronic disease in this way, its obvious that you should treat the cellular deficiencies that cause diseases to develop in the first place instead of just treating the symptoms, which is what most conventional pharmaceutical treatments do.
            ~ Faith
            MSWorld Volunteer -- Moderator since JUN2012
            (now a Mimibug)

            Symptoms began in JAN02
            - Dx with RRMS in OCT03, following 21 months of limbo, ruling out lots of other dx, and some "probable stroke" and "probable CNS" dx for awhile.
            - In 2008, I was back in limbo briefly, then re-dx w/ MS: JUL08
            .

            - Betaseron NOV03-AUG08; Copaxone20 SEPT08-APR15; Copaxone40 APR15-present
            - Began receiving SSDI / LTD NOV08. Not employed. I volunteer in my church and community.

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              #36
              Appt. #20

              Dr. G, Jan. 7
              - He asked about my toenail fungus. It's in bad shape again. I reported that I continue to soak it in warm water with Epsom salt and treat it with tea tree oil daily.
              - I continue to exercise and eat well.
              - My MIL is getting rid of "clutter" and has a FIR Infrared sauna dome that she wants to get rid of. She offered it to me (or have my husband help her sell it, if I don't want it). They are expensive machines, and she offered it to us at a very reduced price. I shared the product information with Dr. G and asked him whether that would be something good for me to use. He was very encouraging and believes that it can help my MS.

              Since my last Dr. G appt, I've also continued to use acupuncture and kinesiology, as well as go to my In.Form maintenance meetings and my peer counselor. I've found a couple of apps that I am beginning to use more regularly for meditation.

              I also found a Facebook (Wahls Who Read, I think it's called) group that is studying The Wahls Protocol chapter by chapter. I'd skimmed it before, but I'm reading it thoroughly now, and evaluating whether I want to add strategies to what I'm already doing. It does mention infrared dome, and I'm using mine daily. It's too early to tell if it has an impact on my health.

              The I'm focusing more on vegetables and trying to get my nine vegetables daily, not just sometimes. I don't plan to eat as much meat as Dr. Wahl prescribes. I consider myself sort of a flexitarian. I eat meat and fish sometimes, but probably not daily, and certainly not as much as Dr. Wahls suggests. I try to get much of my protein from plant sources. Her diet says no eggs, but the only reason I can discern for that is that she, personally, has a sensitivity to eggs, so the research she did included no eggs with her patients and she has developed the diet that way. I won't restrict eggs in my diet.

              I may try to add more fermented foods as Dr. Wahls suggests (I rarely do that and I should -- Dr. G suggests that too), and I've heard that supplements are available for liver or organ meat. Dr. Wahls suggests adding those meats to my diet, and I don't plan to do that, but maybe there's a supplement available. Maybe also supplements for kelp and algae.

              I didn't talk with Dr. G about re-reading this book. I'd read some, and skimmed some, before, at his suggestion. There's a lot of overlap between his protocol and hers. But, his reason for suggesting it was mostly to help me to develop a stronger belief that I could become symptom free.

              I think I'm starting to believe that; it just isn't happening as quickly as he expected. I'm OK with that. My MS is stable, and it didn't used to be. I've also experienced small, incremental changes in some areas. I don't need to set a timetable to get to a certain point. If my health is improving, I'm content for that to happen at its own pace. I definitely believe that his protocol is helping, even if the changes are not as dramatic as predicted. I remain extremely committed to GF / DF, I'm glad that my home and my products have been purged of so many toxins, and I'm doing so many other things that he suggested.

              7212
              ~ Faith
              MSWorld Volunteer -- Moderator since JUN2012
              (now a Mimibug)

              Symptoms began in JAN02
              - Dx with RRMS in OCT03, following 21 months of limbo, ruling out lots of other dx, and some "probable stroke" and "probable CNS" dx for awhile.
              - In 2008, I was back in limbo briefly, then re-dx w/ MS: JUL08
              .

              - Betaseron NOV03-AUG08; Copaxone20 SEPT08-APR15; Copaxone40 APR15-present
              - Began receiving SSDI / LTD NOV08. Not employed. I volunteer in my church and community.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Mamabug View Post
                The I'm focusing more on vegetables and trying to get my nine vegetables daily, not just sometimes. I don't plan to eat as much meat as Dr. Wahl prescribes. I consider myself sort of a flexitarian. I eat meat and fish sometimes, but probably not daily, and certainly not as much as Dr. Wahls suggests. I try to get much of my protein from plant sources. Her diet says no eggs, but the only reason I can discern for that is that she, personally, has a sensitivity to eggs, so the research she did included no eggs with her patients and she has developed the diet that way. I won't restrict eggs in my diet.

                I may try to add more fermented foods as Dr. Wahls suggests (I rarely do that and I should -- Dr. G suggests that too), and I've heard that supplements are available for liver or organ meat. Dr. Wahls suggests adding those meats to my diet, and I don't plan to do that, but maybe there's a supplement available. Maybe also supplements for kelp and algae.

                7212
                Hi Mamabug,
                I just started with a new functional medicine doctor too. I saw one about four years ago and stopped going because I just didn't feel like it was helping or that she was really listening to me. I like this new doctor a lot and I am cautiously optimistic. I've done the Wahls protocol before too, I try to implement some of the major things like being gluten free but my adherence varies. The new functional medicine doctor would like me to do the Level 2 version.

                A couple things I did that might help; I put kelp or dulse (seaweed) in my fruit smoothies. You can buy Dulse as dried flakes and Kelp I bought as a supplement capsule and just opened the capsule putting the contents in the smoothies. You can buy organ meat as a supplement too. I think she recommends one from New Zealand. I have bought that and didn't find any taste or reaction to that. I stopped buying it because I read somewhere else that you shouldn't take dehydrated organ meat supplements. Sometimes it's so hard to know what to do. I tried really hard to eat organ meat but if you are not used to the texture it's very off putting. The one thing that I could tolerate eating was the pate recipe that's in the book. If I remember right, you make liver and onions then she uses the left over to make pate. With GF crackers, it wasn't bad.
                I also saw an interview with Dr. Wahls; she was asked about eggs and you are right. It's just because she couldn't tolerate them so if they work for you, they can be part of the diet. She also mentioned the 9 cups of fruits and veggies and said eat as much as you can for your calorie intake. I also struggled with eating that much in a day; I found eating 6 cups was more doable.

                I hope that helps a little.
                Good luck!
                Amy

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                  #38
                  To Blue IsTheBest

                  Thanks so much for responding, and for your tips! It's nice to share this journey with someone.

                  Originally posted by BlueIsTheBest View Post
                  I like this new doctor a lot and I am cautiously optimistic. I've done the Wahls protocol before too, I try to implement some of the major things like being gluten free but my adherence varies. The new functional medicine doctor would like me to do the Level 2 version.
                  I'm probably between a level one and level two. I've decided that I'm ok with where I am on level one.
                  1. 9 cups:
                  Although I'm not there every day, I'm 5'2", 120-125 lbs. I've decided that, based on her protocol, the days that I'm only 6 cups is ok.
                  2. GF. DF:
                  I'm there.
                  3. Organic / Grass fed / wild caught protein:
                  Yeah, sort of; like I said in my last post. I am trying to increase that by adding more fish.


                  Originally posted by BlueIsTheBest View Post
                  A couple things I did that might help; I put kelp or dulse (seaweed) in my fruit smoothies. You can buy Dulse as dried flakes and Kelp I bought as a supplement capsule and just opened the capsule putting the contents in the smoothies.
                  Level 2:
                  1. Reduce grains, legumes, potatoes to 2x/ per week:
                  I'm just starting to think about that. With my fungus problems, it would probably quit feeding the fungus. Some days, I have none. But I suspect that I'm more than 2x per week every week, not just sometimes.
                  I should be able to manage that if I make the decision. When I had my first IgG food sensitivity test in the summer of 2018, these foods were all on my restricted list so I was doing it then, even before I'd read Wahls protocol.
                  2. Seaweed, algae, organ meats:
                  I'm doing a lot of that. I have kelp powder, usually daily. I need to purchase dulce so that I can add that.
                  I also have organ meat supplements, but they are expensive and I'm already spending money on so many other supplements so I was only taking one capsule per day instead of four. Recently, I started buying canned sardines; they count as organ meats. I've been eating them twice a week, just out of the can. They're sort of ewwww -- these tiny little whole fish. Maybe I'll mash them up and add them to something?
                  3. Fermented foods, soaked seeds and nuts and more raw foods:
                  I have a jar of saurkraut in my fridge. I try to remember to eat a little every day, but I don't always.
                  I don't soak my seeds and nuts. I probably won't; I don't want to mess with it.
                  I eat raw foods in my smoothies, which I'm starting to have again. I didn't for awhile.

                  Level 3:
                  Not my goal. Too restrictive and I'm not even full level two. But I have added a full can of the full fat coconut milk frequently. I put it in my smoothies.

                  Let me know how you're doing, how your compliance is, if you notice health improvements, etc. 🙂
                  Last edited by Mamabug; 02-26-2020, 05:08 PM.
                  ~ Faith
                  MSWorld Volunteer -- Moderator since JUN2012
                  (now a Mimibug)

                  Symptoms began in JAN02
                  - Dx with RRMS in OCT03, following 21 months of limbo, ruling out lots of other dx, and some "probable stroke" and "probable CNS" dx for awhile.
                  - In 2008, I was back in limbo briefly, then re-dx w/ MS: JUL08
                  .

                  - Betaseron NOV03-AUG08; Copaxone20 SEPT08-APR15; Copaxone40 APR15-present
                  - Began receiving SSDI / LTD NOV08. Not employed. I volunteer in my church and community.

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                    #39
                    MamaBug, I will say I have enjoyed reading your two threads on your journey. Thank you for sharing. I am leaning toward trying to do this as naturally as possible. Thank you for your insight.

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