Magnetoreception

[Orbeus]

I am curious as to how many folks are familiar with the so-called "sixth sense" that our modern science has only begun to understand. As MS is a disorder which causes sensory signals to often get crossed, I believe sufferers of MS often have their magnetosense triggered involuntarily, a disruption that manifests itself as what many have described as an "elevator sensation;" i.e., a rippling sensation, pushing on the bottom of your feet, etc. Many elevators have electromagnetic components that, when activated, can cause people with a strong magnetosense to become disoriented or "woozy." This feeling is often confused with equilibrioception, the internal sense that tells you that you are moving vertically, but I became suspicious of this when I began getting these feelings any time an elevator or escalator was in my vicinity.

I have since been training my magnetic sense, and researching other types of people who experience the same pheonomena. My search brought me to this forum, and I feel compelled to share my experience with sufferers of MS in an attempt to help to contextualize and better understand these types of symptoms. I believe that understanding magnetoreception will ultimately lead to a greater understanding of MS, and open the door to a new avenue of discovery that may, one day, lead to a cure. I may be taking a shot in the dark, but I believe the topic at least warrants further discussion. If you are unfamiliar with magnetoreception, I urge you to do some digging so the discussion may continue.

[KoKo]

As MS is a disorder which causes sensory signals to often get crossed, I believe sufferers of MS often have their magnetosense triggered involuntarily, a disruption that manifests itself as what many have described as an "elevator sensation;" i.e., a rippling sensation, pushing on the bottom of your feet, etc.

Orbeus

In MS, the sensory signals get crossed due to impaired nerve function, caused by demyelination of the brain and spinal cord. This can be seen on MRI images.

Take Care

[Orbeus]

Yes, I understand this. I am more interested in particularly how MS effects the neurons responsible for the transfer of magnetoreceptive information to the brain. Magnetoreception is unique in that most people are unaware that they possess it, implying that it works primarily through the subconscious. However, there is a conscious element to the sense, as people are becoming more and more aware of its existence. I believe that magnetoreceptive neurons are intertwined with those for several of the other senses, and that they intentionally "cross the wires" to allow the other senses to be heightened during the transmission of complimentary magnetoreceptive data. I believe that if we understand the mechanisms of these magnetoreceptive neurons, we just may get to the core of what makes MS tick, so to speak.

Bear in mind that I am only trying to help. Curt responses show a disrespect to the people I am trying to help.

[SNOOPY]

I did a little research on Magnetoreception and at least, to me, it makes absolutely no sense in regards to Multiple Sclerosis.

As MS is a disorder

Your information is incorrect. Multiple Sclerosis is a chronic Disease, "thought to be an autoimmune Disorder." http://uhealthsystem.com/health-libr...order/multiple

You don't have MS. Are you undergoing testing for MS? If not then what is your purpose here?

[Tawanda]

Hi Matt,

I have to admit your thread is difficult to understand. Ummmmm...Tuition? Dreams? That "little voice" we have inside of us? What specifically are we talking about here?

With MS, I am all about thinking outside the box. I try to do it. So do many others. Until there's a cure, thinking outside the box is a research necessity. Although you have throughly tried to explain yourself in a few posts on here, I have to confess I am not connecting the dots. Sorry and good luck.

[Orbeus]

As I have stated multiple times, my purpose here is simply to get the ball rolling on an avenue of thinking that I believe may give us a better understanding of the condition. And I apologize for referring to MS as a disorder and not a condition. I am attempting to be as tactful as possible, as I am getting the sensation that some on this site consider me insensitive to their situation.

I would like to assure folks here that I am not trying to step on anyone's toes. I found this website by doing a Google search on my own symptoms and decided to reach out to this community in hopes of better understanding myself. From what I can tell, modern medicine is only beginning to understand people like me, and I, like many of you, am just looking for answers; hoping someone can help me connect the dots, as it were.

[Tawanda]

I am attempting to be as tactful as possible, as I am getting the sensation that some on this site consider me insensitive to their situation.

I am sorry you got that impression. I have been struggling with M.S. for probably 20 years or so, and about the only thing I know for sure about it is that it's complicated! Like many, I am all about discussing solutions (even the ones that are so crazy they just might work).

[SNOOPY]

I am getting the sensation that some on this site consider me insensitive to their situation.

I can only speak for myself; I don't consider what you have written as insensitive but rather, spam. Spam is something those of us with MS and on MS forums are very familiar with...unfortunately.

hoping someone can help me connect the dots, as it were.

Then please feel free to let us know what you are going through as well as any testing and maybe we could offer some unprofessional advice. But if your goal is to interest us in Magnetoreception, well, I have nothing else to say.

[Orbeus]

Perhaps you are right, Snoop. And this will be my last post for awhile, unless and until I have something more concrete to offer the community. I get the feeling that my presence here is upsetting people. I had hoped to find some common ground among fellow sufferers of the same symptoms, to offer my insights and listen to theirs, but what I have been met with is sectarianism. I wish you all the best of luck in finding answers, and I am sorry for not being better able to relate. And for the record, a callous disregard for my symptoms is something I am quite familiar with, unfortunately.

[KoKo]

I am curious as to how many folks are familiar with the so-called "sixth sense" that our modern science has only begun to understand.

I believe that understanding magnetoreception will ultimately lead to a greater understanding of MS, and open the door to a new avenue of discovery that may, one day, lead to a cure. I may be taking a shot in the dark, but I believe the topic at least warrants further discussion. If you are unfamiliar with magnetoreception, I urge you to do some digging so the discussion may continue.

Do you really think it's fair to expect those of us with MS to engage in a discussion about Magnetoreception, which is something that modern science is just beginning to understand?

If and when that points to a cure for MS, we will be thrilled about it!

We are glad to offer support and share our experiences with those who have MS-like symptoms, or those who are concerned about a diagnosis.

We also share our experiences and info about the MS diagnostic process, the many challenges of living with MS, and the various treatments available for disease modification, as well as symptom management and treatments.

If we can help with these topics, feel free to share or ask questions.

Take Care

[pennstater]

Perhaps you are right, Snoop. And this will be my last post for awhile, unless and until I have something more concrete to offer the community. I get the feeling that my presence here is upsetting people. I had hoped to find some common ground among fellow sufferers of the same symptoms, to offer my insights and listen to theirs, but what I have been met with is sectarianism. I wish you all the best of luck in finding answers, and I am sorry for not being better able to relate. And for the record, a callous disregard for my symptoms is something I am quite familiar with, unfortunately.

I think part of the issue is that you really haven't shared your symptoms, history, interaction with the medical community, etc.. In the absence of that, and being a new poster, the MS community has seen many come and go trying to profit off of false hope. So suspicion is warranted.

So if you care to share more of your experiences and why the new area of study in humans seems to pique your interest, you may get some discussion. Are there specific studies of interest? What makes you connect it to MS.

On a side note, you also didn't mention how you are trying to help.

[Tawanda]

And for the record, a callous disregard for my symptoms is something I am quite familiar with, unfortunately.

Hello Matt,
Since you are taking a leave of absence, you may or may not see these last few responses. I am not sure of the "callous disregard for (your) symptoms you're implying you received at MSW, but you it's not like you ever really never shared them with in the first place.

If you think you have MS (and I hope you don't) the first step is to get an appointment with a good neurologist. One very special quality of MSW is that there are people here who can help you find one if given your general location. Perhaps a neurologist's office would be a better place to further your discussion on Magnetoreception as well.