MSWorld and the MS Technology Consortium
with
Ellen Kampel
September 27, 2007
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 6:48:08 PM)
Tonight’s topic will be “Using technology to help improve the way you live with multiple sclerosis.” I expect our guest to type for less than 20 minutes or so and then a moderated Q&A will follow until about 9 pm Eastern Time;
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 6:49:48 PM)
Tonight we are using Protocol. Please type a ? or ! to ask a question or make a comment. When the presentation is over you will be called on in order by RagdollOP or PeachOP who will be keeping track of requests;
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 6:50:31 PM)
Tonight will concentrate on technology that is available to help us
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 6:51:21 PM)
Hopefully Ellen has some hints to help visibility without capping out
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 6:57:19 PM)
Tonight we are using Protocol. Please type a ? or ! to ask a question or make a comment. When the presentation is over you will be called on in order by RagdollOP or PeachOP who will be keeping track of requests;
earthling(Sep 27, 2007 6:58:46 PM)
Thank you for being here tonight Ellen
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 6:59:05 PM
ok I thought it would be more interesting to have more Q&A and less lecture
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 6:59:10 PM)
There are a few paragraphs of housekeeping to read when ready
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:00:03 PM)
I am. this is fun
RagdollOP(Sep 27, 2007 7:00:09 PM)
it is fun
chatter 3 (Sep 27, 2007 7:00:19 PM)
we have a great time together
Ellen Kampel(Sep 27, 2007 7:00:24 PM)
I can tell
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:00:24 PM)
I've heard great things about you and enjoyed your writing
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:00:56 PM)
I am glad. John and I have enjoyed writing that column and are planning to do a lot more of them. I want to write one about environmental controls
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:01:04 PM)
A lot of people have trouble with chat speed so read later
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:02:25 PM)
ready to begin with my intro?
Ellen Kampel(Sep 27, 2007 7:02:36 PM)
whenever you are ready
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:02:45 PM)
king of cut and paste :)
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:03:07 PM)
After the chat you might enjoy Ellen’s writings along with our last Guest John Williams at http://www.mymsmyway.com. Your guide to using technology to help improve the way you live with multiple sclerosis (MS).
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:03:27 PM)
All views are the opinions of the guest speaker and persons in the support group and should in no way be used as a replacement for professional health or legal advice. A transcript will be posted on MSWorld after names have been masked and the speaker approves the transcript
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:03:52 PM)
Tonight’s topic will be “Using technology to help improve the way you live multiple sclerosis.” I expect our guest to type for less than 20 minutes or so and then a moderated Q&A will follow until about 9 pm Eastern Time;
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:04:20 PM)
Tonight we are using Protocol. Please type a ? or ! to ask a question or make a comment. When the presentation is over you will be called on in order by RagdollOP or PeachOP who will be keeping track of requests;
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:04:41 PM)
Tell me when to start
KenOP(Sep 27, 2007 7:05:42 PM)
Our Guest tonight is Ellen Kampel, M.S.W., Public Affairs manager for the Accessibility Business Group at Microsoft Corporation...
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:06:04 PM)
Ms. Kampel began her career in the field of Social Work working with children with disabilities, at-risk youth and senior citizens. As part of her 26 year tenure with Microsoft, she has worked on the team developing educational products such as Microsoft Encarta and handling issues related to K-12 education...
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:06:29 PM)
For the past eight years, she has worked on accessibility issues at Microsoft with an eye toward making technology more accessible to all people, including people with disabilities;
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:06:49 PM)
She works with advocacy groups, the media, and industry partners, to help make information and communications products easier to see, hear and use;
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:07:09 PM)
Ms. Kampel knows first hand about the need for Assistive Technology and its applications. She has lived with MS for over 25 years;
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:07:33 PM)
Representing the MS Technology Consortium (Thanks to Microsoft, the National Multiple Sclerosis Society, and Bayer HealthCare) please join me in welcoming Ellen Kampel to MSWorld chat.
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:07:47 PM)
Ellen when you are ready welcome
RagdollOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:07:48 PM)
welcome Ellen we are glad you are here
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:08:01 PM)
thank you Ken and others. It is great to be here
Ellen Kampel(Sep 27, 2007 7:08:32 PM)
As Ken mentioned I have had MS for over 25 years and, like others with MS, have had a wide variety of symptoms
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:08:54 PM)
Because of the flexibility of accessible technology, I have been able to keep my job at Microsoft
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:09:27 PM)
I have chatted with many employees at Microsoft and at other companies too who rely on accessible technology to stay productive at work
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:09:51 PM)
it makes for a level playing field and removes barriers so all of us can be competitive
chatter 11 (Sep 27, 2007 7:10:17 PM)
I have vertigo almost everyday, in can't go to a job..does anyone else have this problem?
Ellen Kampel(Sep 27, 2007 7:10:23 PM)
I have seen first hand the effects of how assistive technology can open up doors...
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:10:35 PM)
for people with all types of disabilities ...
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:11:01 PM)
and I think it is particularly important for people with MS because of the changing nature of the symptoms.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:11:18 PM)
One day vision may be great and the next day it’s blurry. Ditto for dexterity.
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:11:45 PM)
Tonight we are using Protocol. Please type a ? or ! to ask a question or make a comment. When the presentation is over you will be called on in order
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:11:50 PM)
I have many colleagues who are in wheel chairs and are quadriplegic at Microsoft and can't use their hands.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:12:05 PM)
But they use other input devices to communicate, do their work, and send email.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:12:47 PM)
There are literally hundreds of products on the marketplace and I want to help educate people about where to learn about it.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:13:41 PM)
I have been working closely with the MS Society and with Bayer to start getting the word out about the power of this technology and it has been a great pleasure both personally and professionally to work on this project.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:14:08 PM)
In no other place has there been such intensive study and now solutions offered specifically to people with MS.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:14:31 PM)
I would like to open up this forum to questions - I will do my best to answer them!!
KenOP Sep 27, 2007 7:14:46 PM)
Thank you Ellen. Ragdoll any questions?
RagdollOP(Sep 27, 2007 7:15:09 PM)
Ready for others
chatter 1 (Sep 27, 2007 7:15:16 PM)
?
RagdollOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:15:27 PM)
Chatter 1 it’s your turn to ask a question
chatter 1 (Sep 27, 2007 7:16:02 PM)
Are there programs that do more than just make type larger to assist with reading?
chatter 12 (Sep 27, 2007 7:16:03 PM)
? Do you know about devices that let you use your computer by voice activation only?
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:16:34 PM)
Those are two questions so let me try to answer both.
KenOP(Sep 27, 2007 7:17:17 PM)
Take your time Ellen
Ellen Kampel(Sep 27, 2007 7:17:33 PM)
Regarding the first one, yes, there are many programs that assist with reading..and not just making type larger. There is word prediction software for writing and also many programs such as TextHelp will highlight words, lines, or sentences to help you track what you are reading.
chatter 14 (Sep 27, 2007 7:18:15 PM)
Ellen, how do I make my type larger?
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:18:19 PM)
And, regarding voice recognition, there are two great choices on the market. If you have Windows Vista loaded on your computer, it actually ships with an excellent voice recognition program on it and it is free with the operating system
Ellen Kampel(Sep 27, 2007 7:18:35 PM)
The user would only need to purchase a microphone.
chatter 3 (Sep 27, 2007 7:19:03 PM)
?
RagdollOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:19:05 PM)
Please wait to be called on
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:19:08 PM)
The other product is Dragon Naturally Speaking and it is an outstanding program too. Both allow you to "command and control" the computer by issuing commands and also to dictate
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:19:34 PM)
next question
RagdollOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:19:48 PM)
chatter 12 it’s your turn
chatter 12 (Sep 27, 2007 7:20:00 PM)
Thanks, mine was answered
RagdollOP(Sep 27, 2007 7:21:15 PM)
chatter 3 it’s your turn to ask a question
chatter 3 (Sep 27, 2007 7:21:24 PM)
are any of these devices from Microsoft compatible with a Mac?
RagdollOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:21:44 PM)
?
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:21:59 PM)
Microsoft doesn't make the devices per se...there's hundreds of third party companies that make them. And yes, many of them are compatible with the Mac.
chatter 3 (Sep 27, 2007 7:22:17 PM)
ty
RagdollOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:22:20 PM)
Are these products expensive to buy?
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:22:34 PM)
Assistive technology can be software based or hardware based. For example an alternative keyboard or a one handed keyboard is hardware based while a screen magnifier is software based.
chatter 15 (Sep 27, 2007 7:23:06 PM)
?
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:23:26 PM)
And regarding the expense, that one is a little bit harder to answer because it really does depend upon the device or the software. For example, there are many settings in the operating system that people can set on their own for free, but many people don’t even know about it.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:23:45 PM)
There are ways to set the computer so that the icons are larger, there is a higher contrast and the font is larger.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:24:09 PM)
But if you find that you need large magnification on a 24.7 basis, you may also want to invest in a magnification program which is more expensive.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:24:16 PM)
next question
RagdollOP(Sep 27, 2007 7:24:18 PM)
chatter 15 it’s your turn to ask a question
chatter 15 (Sep 27, 2007 7:24:37 PM)
I've heard that Vista is pretty accessible. Can
you tell me what features are available on Vista?
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:26:21 PM)
!
Ellen Kampel(Sep 27, 2007 7:26:29 PM)
Yes. There is an Ease of Access center that takes you through a "needs assessment" and helps you customize the computer according to your preferences. I used that to help me set up large icons and large font on my computer. It will ask you a series of questions if you aren't very technical and then at the end it will make the settings for you. I find that enormously helpful.
chatter 9(Sep 27, 2007 7:26:45 PM)
?
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:26:54 PM)
In addition, there is a screen magnifier that you can use if you want to temporarily magnify a part of the screen. I use that occasionally as well.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:27:17 PM)
But as I mentioned earlier, it really isn't intended for someone who needs magnification all the time they use a computer.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:27:45 PM)
Finally there is a narration program in Vista that will read you the screen elements. It works like a screen reader does but again it is for temporary use.
chatter 1 (Sep 27, 2007 7:27:46 PM)
?
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:28:18 PM)
And if a person needs a screen reader around the clock, they should invest in JAWS, Dolphin, AISquared, etc.
products.
chatter 1 (Sep 27, 2007 7:28:24 PM)
Should the user buy a larger monitor to get the most out of magnification software?
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:29:14 PM)
As a person with low vision, I have found it enormously helpful to have a larger monitor. Yes. And I have some other colleagues at Microsoft who have taken that idea one step further and have actually purchased two monitors and put them side by side.
chatter 7 (Sep 27, 2007 7:29:44 PM)
?
Ellen Kampel(Sep 27, 2007 7:29:48 PM)
Vista allows you to "stretch" your screen across two computers so that gives you even more screen real estate which is useful if you are using magnification, which takes up a lot of space
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:29:57 PM)
next question
RagdollOP(Sep 27, 2007 7:29:59 PM)
KenOP it’s your turn to make a comment
KenOP(Sep 27, 2007 7:30:03 PM)
I have been using various software since the early seventies and I'm pleased to see the cooperation from the various vendors to make things easier and more fluid good companies come to the front constantly i.e., Microsoft and hardware maker’s cooperation is growing.
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:30:44 PM)
Thanks for your involvement Ellen
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:30:51 PM)
Thanks for noticing that!! We have people at Microsoft who work full time on interoperability and who communicate with the assistive technology vendors on a full time basis.
RagdollOP(Sep 27, 2007 7:30:53 PM)
chatter 9 it’s your turn to ask a question
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:31:04 PM)
The goal is to make it seamless for the person using assistive technology.
chatter 9 (Sep 27, 2007 7:31:27 PM)
Ellen, what are some sites that are good resources for the information you are talking about?
chatter 16 (Sep 27, 2007 7:31:31 PM)
New to this forum. Can I just type my ? anytime? What's your exp. with voice activated scripting for those X when the fingers just won't work?
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:32:08 PM)
Protocol will be used for this chat. At any time during the presentation you can type "?" or "!" if you have a question or a comment... After the presentation you will be called on by MSWorld staff when it is your turn. That is when you can post your question or comment. The guest will then answer;
chatter 16 (Sep 27, 2007 7:32:27 PM)
Thanks
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:32:30 PM)
There are many good resources for learning more about assistive technology. The Microsoft site is a good start because it will provide you with tutorials about how to tweak your computer according to your needs. That site is www.microsoft.com/enable
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:32:48 PM)
You can also do a search up there for assistive technology software and hardware that suits your needs.
chatter 1 (Sep 27, 2007 7:32:55 PM)
!
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:33:08 PM)
Another great place for shopping for assistive technology is www.enablemart.com
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:33:46 PM)
If you keep checking back at the mymsmyway.com web site you will also see a growing list of technology tips and resources for people with MS.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:33:52 PM)
next question
RagdollOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:33:54 PM)
chatter 1 it’s your turn to ask a question
chatter 3 (Sep 27, 2007 7:34:48 PM)
?
chatter 1 (Sep 27, 2007 7:34:50 PM)
XP came with some great stuff too including speech recognition....and sorry I used the enter key too early before.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:35:34 PM)
The Tablet version of Windows XP came with speech recognition on it and Speech also came on Office XP. But it didn't ship with the regular desktop versions of Windows XP.
chatter 1 (Sep 27, 2007 7:36:01 PM)
!
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:36:19 PM)
However, the Vista Speech Recognition is light years ahead of the Windows XP one. If you have a chance to try it, I suggest you do. My boss had shoulder surgery and relied exclusively on it to do all him communication.
Ellen Kampel(Sep 27, 2007 7:36:30 PM)
I had another website I wanted to share
KenOP(Sep 27, 2007 7:36:45 PM)
Please do
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:36:56 PM)
We just posted a website of Microsoft employees with disabilities who use assistive technology regularly in order to do their work.
Ellen Kampel(Sep 27, 2007 7:37:24 PM)
Their "interviews" can be seen at http://www.microsoft.com/enable/casestudy/videos.aspx and viewers will note the variety of devices that people use.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:37:57 PM)
While none of the people featured has MS per so, many of them have low vision and dexterity issues. I think you will enjoy watching the videos.
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:38:18 PM)
After the chat you might enjoy Ellen’s writings along with our last Guest John Williams at http://www.mymsmyway.com. Your guide to using technology to help improve the way you live with multiple sclerosis (MS).
chatter 17 (Sep 27, 2007 7:38:32 PM)
?
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:39:00 PM)
next question
RagdollOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:39:02 PM)
chatter 7 it’s your turn to ask a question
chatter 7 (Sep 27, 2007 7:39:08 PM)
Ellen, I just want to let folks know that many states have programs where you can get some of the items you are talking about at a low cost or free...in Mid-Florida , we have a program called FAAST that has offices in Orlando & Tampa. I have taken advantage of their services. I want to thank you Ellen for your involvement with this program tonight.
chatter 17 (Sep 27, 2007 7:40:14 PM)
When is the new Surface interface going to be released? And does it have aspects that will help MS related symptoms? i.e., dexterity, vision, etc...
Ellen Kampel(Sep 27, 2007 7:40:23 PM
Thank you chatter 7. While I wasn't aware of that program specifically, I know that there is a national program called ATAP that has a presence in many of the states and I believe that they may help with affordability. Similarly, many manufacturers have loan programs, too.
chatter 7 (Sep 27, 2007 7:40:58 PM)
Thanks Ellen
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:41:18 PM)
I am not sure when the surface displays will ship but like any technology it will be good for many people but not all.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:41:53 PM)
I believe there is a lot of promise in that technology and for people who prefer a touch screen it will be great.
RagdollOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:42:40 PM)
chatter 16 it’s your turn to ask a question
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:42:41 PM)
But I am hoping that people with low vision will be able to interact with it. It all depends but I am very hopeful. Accessibility is all about choice and preference. Multiple forms of input and multiple forms of output.
chatter 16 (Sep 27, 2007 7:43:06 PM)
How difficult is it to retro-fit or install the speech recognition feature on a PC? Mine is 3+ yrs. new and I'm not very PC savvy.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:44:18 PM)
Depending on how robust your PC is, I might wait for your next computer which will come with Vista, so it will already be on it. Having said that, if you want to invest in a SR program right now, you can check with the Nuance company that makes Dragon and see if there is a version that works on your existing PC.
chatter 16 (Sep 27, 2007 7:44:43 PM)
Thanks!
KenOP(Sep 27, 2007 7:45:04 PM)
The National Multiple Sclerosis Society also has many resources and helpers standing by www.nationalMSsociety.org is a treasure trove too
RagdollOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:45:27 PM)
chatter 1 it’s your turn to make your comment
chatter 1 (Sep 27, 2007 7:45:30 PM)
What does tablet version mean? Both of the desktops I have purchased have the voice recognition on XP. They are both XP Home Edition.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:45:48 PM)
Are you sure it isn't Office XP?
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:45:54 PM)
The speech shipped with Office XP.
chatter 16 (Sep 27, 2007 7:46:09 PM)
?
chatter 1 (Sep 27, 2007 7:46:26 PM)
My tech said that this is a toned down version of office but I bought it at Best Buy
chatter 16 (Sep 27, 2007 7:46:36 PM)
I have office XP on my PC. Is it there?
chatter 1 (Sep 27, 2007 7:46:37 PM)
both of them
chatter 1(Sep 27, 2007 7:46:55 PM)
!
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:46:56 PM)
Yes, but that version is a little bit more difficult to use in my opinion.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:47:42 PM)
you should try it though!!! That version of Speech needed a lot more "training" than the one in Vista.
chatter 16 (Sep 27, 2007 7:48:00 PM)
OK
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:48:23 PM)
next question
RagdollOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:48:25 PM)
chatter 3 it’s your turn to ask a question
chatter 3 (Sep 27, 2007 7:48:32 PM)
You have answered my question about voice recognition. ty
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:49:00 PM)
There are a lot of products that are mobile that are very useful as well for people with low vision.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:49:41 PM)
There is one company called Enhanced Vision http://www.enhancedvision.com/ they make all kinds of portable products that enables you to see at a distance or to read grocery store labels for example.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:50:06 PM)
Some of my colleagues at Microsoft use those when in a group of people and they're trying to read the White Board at a distance.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:50:51 PM)
Also, there are handheld products that you can run over labels in a store and other hand held magnifiers which are really little video cameras that project onto a portable screen.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:51:17 PM)
Next question
RagdollOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:51:18 PM)
chatter 1 it’s your turn to make your comment
chatter 1 (Sep 27, 2007 7:51:20 PM)
I would still like to know what tablet version means. And how did I get 2 PCs with a weird version of office masquerading as XP? My tech is curious too
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:52:43 PM)
The tablet PC rolled out three years ago and it allowed people to write with a stylus directly on the screen so you could take "notes" in a meeting. It functioned as a regular laptop too so you didn't need to use the handwriting functions if you didn't want to.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:53:04 PM)
Did that answer your question?
chatter 1(Sep 27, 2007 7:53:24 PM)
The tablet yes I have that as well on my pc.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:53:42 PM)
The Tablet version of Windows XP came with Speech recognition on it.
Ellen Kampel(Sep 27, 2007 7:54:08 PM)
next question
RagdollOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:54:10 PM)
chatter 17 it’s your turn to ask a question
chatter 17 (Sep 27, 2007 7:55:17 PM)
Is there any new hand held devices - such as the Palm... That can help with MS symptoms....
Ellen Kampel(Sep 27, 2007 7:56:32 PM)
Personal Digital Assistants (PDAs) such as the Palm are very helpful with memory. In the column that John Williams and I have been writing, we also asked people to submit their own technology tips and overwhelmingly people mentioned these handhelds and even cell phones as important in helping job memory for tasks.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:56:50 PM)
That's only one example of how people can use PDA to help manage their MS.
chatter 13 (Sep 27, 2007 7:57:20 PM)
!
Ellen Kampel(Sep 27, 2007 7:57:21 PM)
next question
RagdollOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:57:23 PM)
chatter 16 it’s your turn to ask a question
chatter 17(Sep 27, 2007 7:57:25 PM)
I know that my Palm is a life saver on many occasions...
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:57:31 PM)
How do you use yours?
chatter 16 (Sep 27, 2007 7:57:39 PM)
None @ this time. Thanks!
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:57:46 PM)
Thanks to all of you for participating so other MSWorld members will have a nice transcript to read at their leisure once posted.
KenOP(Sep 27, 2007 7:58:00 PM)
Any more questions Ragdoll?
chatter 17(Sep 27, 2007 7:58:04 PM)
I put in all my appointments etc... Then write my to do lists.
RagdollOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:58:09 PM)
2 more
Ellen Kampel Sep 27, 2007 7:58:40 PM)
Those are great ways to use a PDA to remind you of important tasks.
chatter 13 (Sep 27, 2007 7:59:11 PM)
I do the same on my Palm as far as appointments. Even repeating onex and lists.
chatter 18(Sep 27, 2007 7:59:33 PM)
Any other ways to help remember appointments?
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 7:59:51 PM)
Cell phone alarms help too
RagdollOP (Sep 27, 2007 7:59:52 PM)
chatter 1 is next
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 8:00:01 PM)
With medications reminders, too.
chatter 13 (Sep 27, 2007 8:00:09 PM)
I have my shot schedule on my Palm.
chatter 1 (Sep 27, 2007 8:00:55 PM)
Plms have so many functions ... can you estimate how many may be specific for MS help?
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 8:01:48 PM)
Some of the most common ones were just listed but I will take a look at all the hundreds of tech tips that came in from mymsmyway.com and maybe John and I can write an article about that. Thanks for the idea!!!
chatter 1 (Sep 27, 2007 8:02:03 PM)
Ironman watches are good too.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 8:03:15 PM)
I have to go to a 6:30 appointment so I will need to run now.
RagdollOP(Sep 27, 2007 8:03:19 PM)
Thank you for the wonderful chat and information, Ellen.
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 8:03:19 PM)
After the chat you might enjoy Ellen’s writings along with our last Guest John Williams at http://www.mymsmyway.com. Your guide to using technology to help improve the way you live with multiple sclerosis (MS). Thank you all for your time. Especially Ellen. Please feel free to join us in the main chat room. Keep your eyes open for our next Guest Chat Courtesy of the MS Technology Consortium.
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 8:03:29 PM)
But I wanted to thank everyone. This has been great fun!!
KenOP(Sep 27, 2007 8:03:34 PM)
Thank you, Ellen.
PeachOP (Sep 27, 2007 8:03:38 PM)
APPLAUSE, APPLAUSE
chatter 7 (Sep 27, 2007 8:03:38 PM)
Thanks Ellen
chatter 3(Sep 27, 2007 8:03:39 PM)
ty Ellen
Ellen Kampel (Sep 27, 2007 8:03:40 PM)
A pleasure
chatter 18 (Sep 27, 2007 8:03:44 PM)
TY ELLEN
chatter 8 (Sep 27, 2007 8:03:44 PM)
Thank you Ellen, this was very useful
chatter 1 (Sep 27, 2007 8:03:47 PM)
ty Ellen
chatter 16 (Sep 27, 2007 8:03:47 PM)
Thank you
chatter 3 (Sep 27, 2007 8:03:49 PM)
come back and visit us soon
chatter 9(Sep 27, 2007 8:03:51 PM)
thanks Ellen
chatter 17 (Sep 27, 2007 8:03:51 PM)
thank you
chatter 13 (Sep 27, 2007 8:04:06 PM)
TY ELLEN
KenOP (Sep 27, 2007 8:04:44 PM)
Thank BeccaK too she helped represent the NMSS coordinating the chat.
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