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    I apologize for probably being one of many asking these same questions but whatever I have has slowly debilitated my life. I am trying to find out if anyone here has symptoms such as these.

    For over 30 years, I have enjoyed the epitome of health. I never got the flu or hardly a cold. Then, about 10 years ago, I slowly started to lose my energy. Went to numerous doctors and nothing showed up save for 4 or 5 tests that showed light chain ratios that were off. Then, about a year ago, I started to notice I was dropping things. Not holding onto a glass but dropping small articles of clothing and such. The fatigue got worse and I slowly started to stop "living life" like I used to. I found myself trying to take naps so that I could stay up a bit longer on weekends with my wife. Now, I can't doze off for naps when I want to.

    However, what has also been getting worse is this sudden urge to go lie down as if the fatigue wasn't enough, THIS fatigue was like someone anesthetized me. As soon as I laid down, I was out HARD. It was like being in a coma and not moving any body part-worst fatigue imaginable. This would last from 30mins to an hour. Then I would slowly come out of it. I started to get tingling in my arms and it would go away after awhile. I also noticed that if I laid there and sent a mental command to think about one of my arms or legs, it gave me a strange feeling mentally-cant explain it.

    As of the past two weeks, these symptoms have gotten progressively worse. I have had all limbs go partially numb, with these weird tremors in all my fingers and toes, tingling on the bottom of my feet and all throughout my hands. It is like my nerve endings are having a fireworks show. Now my fingers have twitches and tremors 24/7. I have had strong chest pain on the left side as well as trying to catch my breath when either walking or speaking although my oxygen was ok at 94. This past Monday, I had my right leg go completely numb off and on for several hours. As I was talking to my wife, I felt a strange feeling in the area of the left side of my head. I went to drink a sip of water and to my astonishment, my swallow mechanism would not engage. It was like it was paralyzed. Then I sat down and my left orbital socket area started to spasm severely for about 4-5 seconds and stop. Few seconds later, I completely lost the entire left neck muscle area and could not hold up my head.

    I went to the ER reluctantly because I feel they never find anything but wanted to make sure. During my time in the hospital, I found that I was having issues telling my hands and feet to move. It got to the point that in order to move them, I had to wiggle my shoulders or hips to get the limbs to move. If I let them sit for at least 20-30 seconds, I couldn't move them again. My heart checked out fine and they did a CT scan of my brain and I got an MRI done yesterday. The only thing it shows so far is mild swelling around the optic nerve sheaths and the right frontal lobe has a prominent perivascular space-6x22 in size represented in the subcortical white matter. I read this can be completely normal and sometimes not.

    So, in the past few days I have narrowed down these attacks: start to slowly feel even more exhausted than I already do that climbs in intensity until I have to lie down. After lying down, I am out. Its like I start to already dream when I'm awake still. Then the tremors and twitches increase dramatically with the chest pain starting up again. Ill feel my fingers pull inward but not quite a clench. Various muscles contract, let off, and contract again. Eye twitch here, thumb yank there, foot numb then not...at this point is where I have a hard time getting my brain to send messages to get a foot or hand to move which usually I cannot. The chest pain and intensified muscle issues can go anywhere from an hour to four depending and longer. I am also unable to walk without assistance. The next day, I am somewhat able to do my usual fatigued living until it hits again later on. I almost always get these attacks in the afternoon. Has anyone else had anything like this?

    #2
    Most of us have experienced at least one of the symptoms you describe, however these symptoms don't make up MS. Some of yours have absolutely nothing to do with MS. This is where the value of a good MS specialist can com ion to play. They can cut through all of the noise that are not MS symptoms and focus on just those to run test that are specific for your symptoms. The other symptoms they will send you to specialists for.

    One thing at a time. Stop seeing dr Google you will b dead in two months. Go see a real MS specialist

    Best of luck to you
    Lisa
    Disabled RN with MS for 14 years
    SPMS EDSS 7.5 Wheelchair (but a racing one)
    Tysabri

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      #3
      Originally posted by 22cyclist View Post
      Most of us have experienced at least one of the symptoms you describe, however these symptoms don't make up MS. Some of yours have absolutely nothing to do with MS. This is where the value of a good MS specialist can com ion to play. They can cut through all of the noise that are not MS symptoms and focus on just those to run test that are specific for your symptoms. The other symptoms they will send you to specialists for.

      One thing at a time. Stop seeing dr Google you will b dead in two months. Go see a real MS specialist

      Best of luck to you
      Lisa
      I appreciate your feedback. I have been to every specialist there is save for my neurology appointment next week. I am not the type to self-diagnose myself and run to Google for answers. I was only asking for some help to see if there is anything related to MS so that I can rule that out or educate myself further if it is MS. You had mentioned that I mentioned symptoms that do not relate to MS. Could you please clarify? I have had several doctors already tell me that they suspect is IS MS so that is why I came on here to ask some questions. Everything I wrote here, they all told me were classic signs. I'm a bit confused so could you please clarify.

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        #4
        Hello R3deemed and welcome to MSWorld.

        I was only asking for some help to see if there is anything related to MS so that I can rule that out or educate myself further if it is MS.
        Trying to compare symptoms to see if what you are experiencing is due to Multiple Sclerosis will not be reliable. There is no symptom(s) which are unique to MS.

        The only way to know if you have MS is to undergo more testing which may help rule in/out MS. Your appointment next week is the beginning to that process.

        This link explains other conditions that need to be ruled out:
        http://www.nationalmssociety.org/Sym...ns-to-Rule-Out

        There is a diagnostic criteria for diagnosing Multiple Sclerosis.
        http://www.nationalmssociety.org/Sym.../Diagnosing-MS

        Best wishes on your up coming Neurology appointment.
        Diagnosed 1984
        “Lightworkers aren’t here to avoid the darkness…they are here to transform the darkness through the illuminating power of love.” Muses from a mystic

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          #5
          as has already been said, quit looking and basing everything on what you find from Dr. Google. About the worst thing you can do is go by what you read from Dr. Google. Go see an MS specialist, where they can do testing that will rule out different diseases that mimic MS. There are many symptoms that MS shares with other things.
          hunterd/HuntOP/Dave
          volunteer
          MS World
          hunterd@msworld.org
          PPMS DX 2001

          "ADAPT AND OVERCOME" - MY COUSIN

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            #6
            I honestly don't understand the harshness and I guess my questions are not welcome here. I simply came to ask and see IF anything was related. I also do not understand why you and others think I am Googling for answers. That's why I came here until my appointment. I have already had several doctors tell me that they suspect MS. These doctors are highly regarded where I live. I know nothing about it. They said all my symptoms point to it so that is the road that they are leading me on.

            Thank you to those who offered some info. Good luck to all of you and living the most fulfilling life possible.

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              #7
              not trying to be harsh or judgmental, but the majority of people Google things they do not understand, I am sorry that I assumed. I will stand by my comment that your best bet would be to see an MS specialist.
              We are here to offer help and support to those that need it.
              Let's start over. Many of your symptoms are often found in MS patients. The best thing to do is to let the doctors perform different tasks and tests in orderto rule out other things that can mimic MS. Sometimes this is a relatively quick and easy path and sometimes not. Every one that replied had some good points. I always tell people (and this is much easier said than than done) not to worry about what could be. Best of luck to you.
              hunterd/HuntOP/Dave
              volunteer
              MS World
              hunterd@msworld.org
              PPMS DX 2001

              "ADAPT AND OVERCOME" - MY COUSIN

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                #8
                R3deemed ,

                If your brain MRI doesn't turn up anything 'interesting,' try to get a c-spine MRI. There could be lesions and/or 'mechanical' c-spine causes for the kinds of physical sx you mention (but I think not for the fatigue).

                -- Mark
                1st sx 11/26/09; Copaxone from 12/1/11 to 7/13/18
                NOT ALL SX ARE MS!

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                  #9
                  Similar symptoms

                  When I read your post, I found so many similarities to the symptoms and problems that I am having. The fatigue is so hard for anyone to understand, but the way you describe yours is exactly how I feel. I fall asleep sitting up watching my favorite TV show, or while engrossed in a movie. I start dreaming before I am actually sleeping. I can't move my arms or legs when I am in this sleep and feel paralyzed. My arms fall asleep and I can't feel my arms or hands and it becomes painful, waking me up. I have to start wiggling my fingers, which takes everything I have to get them to start moving, then eventually I get the feeling back in my arms and hands. My fingers and hands hurt when I get up, they are so stiff and hard to flex. I talked to my Neuro about this, and we ruled out Carpal Tunnel and connected this to my MS.

                  I have not had heart issues, or the sever paralysis issued you have experienced while awake, thank goodness. I have constant vision issues with my left eye, parasthesia, and bowel movement issues.

                  I would be interested in the outcome of your appointment with your doc, since I have had similar experiences in my recent life with MS.

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                    #10
                    R3deemed:
                    what has also been getting worse is this sudden urge to go lie down as if the fatigue wasn't enough, THIS fatigue was like someone anesthetized me. As soon as I laid down, I was out HARD. It was like being in a coma and not moving any body part-worst fatigue imaginable.
                    Loveboxers:
                    I start dreaming before I am actually sleeping. I can't move my arms or legs when I am in this sleep and feel paralyzed.
                    What is being explained sounds like sleep paralysis. This usually has to do with the REM sleep cycle and sometimes related to sleep disorders. Although scary this is not harmful. Many people experience this (myself included).

                    http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders...leep-paralysis
                    Diagnosed 1984
                    “Lightworkers aren’t here to avoid the darkness…they are here to transform the darkness through the illuminating power of love.” Muses from a mystic

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                      #11
                      R3deemed Best of luck to you

                      I know that the waiting and needing to know is certainly one of the hardest aspects that we have had to face. Whether it be MS or not, it is still extremely HARD!

                      I wish you the best in this waiting period!

                      GOOD LUCK!

                      Billy
                      Leave the Heat and Stress for the birds!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by R3deemed View Post
                        I apologize for probably being one of many asking these same questions but whatever I have has slowly debilitated my life. I am trying to find out if anyone here has symptoms such as these.

                        For over 30 years, I have enjoyed the epitome of health. I never got the flu or hardly a cold. Then, about 10 years ago, I slowly started to lose my energy. Went to numerous doctors and nothing showed up save for 4 or 5 tests that showed light chain ratios that were off. Then, about a year ago, I started to notice I was dropping things. Not holding onto a glass but dropping small articles of clothing and such. The fatigue got worse and I slowly started to stop "living life" like I used to. I found myself trying to take naps so that I could stay up a bit longer on weekends with my wife. Now, I can't doze off for naps when I want to.

                        However, what has also been getting worse is this sudden urge to go lie down as if the fatigue wasn't enough, THIS fatigue was like someone anesthetized me. As soon as I laid down, I was out HARD. It was like being in a coma and not moving any body part-worst fatigue imaginable. This would last from 30mins to an hour. Then I would slowly come out of it. I started to get tingling in my arms and it would go away after awhile. I also noticed that if I laid there and sent a mental command to think about one of my arms or legs, it gave me a strange feeling mentally-cant explain it.

                        As of the past two weeks, these symptoms have gotten progressively worse. I have had all limbs go partially numb, with these weird tremors in all my fingers and toes, tingling on the bottom of my feet and all throughout my hands. It is like my nerve endings are having a fireworks show. Now my fingers have twitches and tremors 24/7. I have had strong chest pain on the left side as well as trying to catch my breath when either walking or speaking although my oxygen was ok at 94. This past Monday, I had my right leg go completely numb off and on for several hours. As I was talking to my wife, I felt a strange feeling in the area of the left side of my head. I went to drink a sip of water and to my astonishment, my swallow mechanism would not engage. It was like it was paralyzed. Then I sat down and my left orbital socket area started to spasm severely for about 4-5 seconds and stop. Few seconds later, I completely lost the entire left neck muscle area and could not hold up my head.

                        I went to the ER reluctantly because I feel they never find anything but wanted to make sure. During my time in the hospital, I found that I was having issues telling my hands and feet to move. It got to the point that in order to move them, I had to wiggle my shoulders or hips to get the limbs to move. If I let them sit for at least 20-30 seconds, I couldn't move them again. My heart checked out fine and they did a CT scan of my brain and I got an MRI done yesterday. The only thing it shows so far is mild swelling around the optic nerve sheaths and the right frontal lobe has a prominent perivascular space-6x22 in size represented in the subcortical white matter. I read this can be completely normal and sometimes not.

                        So, in the past few days I have narrowed down these attacks: start to slowly feel even more exhausted than I already do that climbs in intensity until I have to lie down. After lying down, I am out. Its like I start to already dream when I'm awake still. Then the tremors and twitches increase dramatically with the chest pain starting up again. Ill feel my fingers pull inward but not quite a clench. Various muscles contract, let off, and contract again. Eye twitch here, thumb yank there, foot numb then not...at this point is where I have a hard time getting my brain to send messages to get a foot or hand to move which usually I cannot. The chest pain and intensified muscle issues can go anywhere from an hour to four depending and longer. I am also unable to walk without assistance. The next day, I am somewhat able to do my usual fatigued living until it hits again later on. I almost always get these attacks in the afternoon. Has anyone else had anything like this?
                        Hello, I m on this site few times a week but rarely post but when I read your post and responses from others I had to chime in here.
                        I have ms and I remember not knowing what my sx were being caused from but had a strong suspicion it was ms. When I was dx it wasn't all to surprising to me. Anyways, I did a lot of internet searching and it was both beneficial and not beneficial for me but in your case it doesn't seem like this is where your going for answers. Sorry, that others not only assumed his but scolded you for it as well. We all have our support and resources and really have no right to judge others especially when the judging is false......
                        I am sorry for what your going through as I was also very active and energetic and have the same fatigue as your describing I hate it. I have tried different meds from my Dr. with a little bit of luck in taking provigil maybe you can ask you Dr about a med you could try. I too drop things its very strange I can be holding an item and out of nowhere I have dropped it this tends to come and go and usually last about 3-5 days. For your other symptoms I can't relate as I haven't experienced the but have read of others that have.
                        More then anything I hope your Dr. can get to the bottom of what is going on. For myself the worse part was waiting to find out an answer to my laundry list of crazy symptoms. I hope you find out it's not ms but if it is ms there is a lot of support out there and what I always am reminding myself of is this is a life living disease not a life killing disease. I will survive and probably live a long life maybe not the life I planned but I am still here and I didn't get a death sentence like those unfortunate people dx with a terminal illness.
                        Best of luck to you
                        Tira

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                          #13
                          I too think R3deemed got some very undeserved scolding.

                          And for the record, I went to an MS specialist long ago, and he failed to diagnose me because he didn't order spine MRIs, just a brain one. In fact, he told me that I "definitively did not" have MS. It was "Dr. Google" that made me not listen to him, and pursue more diligent medical attention. So my takeaway from that is don't automatically believe everything you read on the Internet, but don't put 100% of your faith in the "experts" either. There is no infallible source of information.
                          PPMS
                          Dx 07/13

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                            #14
                            STOP WHEAT .TAKE VIT. D SEE HOW YOU FEEL... OR DON'T.

                            STOP WHEAT. TAKE VIT. D SEE HOW YOU FEEL... OR DON'T.

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                              #15
                              Harsh

                              I think a lot of the replies here were harsh. I didn't get any sense that you were using 'Dr. Google' except to do some research or that the info you collected was written in stone. I do a lot of research using Google also. I think I'm intelligent enough to be able to sort through info and decide if it is helpful.

                              Fatigue is a broadly accepted symptom of MS and it can vary from person to person. It is not just feeling tired. There are other diseases in which fatigue is present. Thyroid problems in particular. I am hypothyroid and prior to my dx I would get so tired I would have to lie down and would fall asleep. I would make a list to present to the neuro. Make it clear and do not make it too complex.

                              Hang in there; at least you know your heart and other organs are doing okay.

                              Besides MS I have COPD/from chronic bronchitis and am Hypothyroid. It seems quite enough to have MS let alone other diseases.

                              Good Luck, feel free to contact me any time.

                              DianeD
                              You cannot dream yourself into a character; you must hammer and forge yourself one.

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