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    #46
    For those of you that are interested... There is a very informative movie called " What if Cannabis Cured Cancer" by Len Richmond, Its discription of content is:

    "What if Cannabis Cured Cancer summarizes the remarkable research findings of recent years about the cancer-protective effects of novel compounds in marijuanna. Most medical doctors are not aware of this information and its implications for prevention and treatment. If we need more evidence that our current policy on cannabis is counterproductive and foolish, here it is." - Andrew Weil, M.D

    I believe you can watch this movie on you tube, I bought it on amazon. It is full of lots of scientific research presented to you by scientist and M.Ds and specialists in cancer.

    Cheers
    Kathy
    2004 pos/MS 2006 Pos/MS also Pos/Crazy 14/01/2012 here we go againDx RRMS 21/06/2012

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      #47
      All I can say is Dr. Don't get kick backs from MMJ and other natural medicines that don't need a script or offer small profit margins.. So, prescribing medicine that kills your LIVER, kidneys,gives you diarrhea or flu like symptoms is FDA approved (which for me means nothing but they paid enought to get it approved) is what makes the medical profession one of the biggest for profit business in the world.
      limbo land for 1 year and 4 months DX February 2012 Copaxon February 2012 for 6 months. No DMD's since.

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        #48
        Muscles relaxing

        Reading rosepetals remarks about muscles relaxing sounds oh so good right now. I have been in a flare that spasms and pain are keeping me from life itself. I never thought my calves could hurt sooo bad. Meds help some. To have my muscles let go even for a hour would be heaven.

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          #49
          The other day I went to the health food store to get empty clear capsules to put the tears in. They worked so very well, just in case anyone trys RSO. It is easier to control the dosage.

          Sept. 25th was my first dose. While I do not love Phoenix tears, (I don't like feeling high. Though I feel high if I ever take meds. I don't like being loopy and MS makes me loopy add in some THC.)

          The depth or degree of muscle relaxation is sooo very complete - that just experiencing it is like feeling a sensation for the first time. It feels so unreal. The depth of relaxation is better than any muscle relaxer I have tried. It's like floating in hot chocolate.

          The neuropathy is decreased to where some nights my husband gets to toss his leg over mine. Snuggle time is good !!! My one leg feels like electricity runs though it. The other one feels like it is on fire to my foot. It is gone or almost completely gone. Even my jaw is relaxed and my shoulders, neck. . .

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            #50
            All I can say is Dr. Don't get kick backs from MMJ and other natural medicines that don't need a script or offer small profit margins.. So, prescribing medicine that kills your LIVER, kidneys,gives you diarrhea or flu like symptoms is FDA approved (which for me means nothing but they paid enought to get it approved) is what makes the medical profession one of the biggest for profit business in the world.
            Ladybabe, I agree with you in that it is true that doctors do get very nice perks from pharma companies to promote their products, this is commom knowledge. However the other side to the reason why doctors do not prescribe this, is it is ilegal for them to not only prescribe it but also to recommend it to their patients. So even the good doctors who would like to have their patients try this have their hands tied

            Sept. 25th was my first dose. While I do not love Phoenix tears, (I don't like feeling high. Though I feel high if I ever take meds. I don't like being loopy and MS makes me loopy add in some THC.)
            rosepetals..I am so glad you are finding such relief with the RSO, as for the high feeling, Rick says you should start with a dose the size of half a grain of rice two or three times a day for 4 days and slowly increase your dose till you reach the recommended daily dose. Done this way you should not feel any extreme highs. If you are still feeling the high then just cut back your dose till you are more comfortable. Then when you are use to that dose, up it a little bit at a time. You really do need to work your way up to the reccomended daily dose. At least you can have comfort in knowing that you cannot overdose on the oil, the worst it can get is you get high and fall asleep, compared to all the dangers and side effects of pharma drugs i'd say thats pretty good

            I would hate to see you give up on the RSO and all the benefits you can gain from it, simply because of the high feeling you are having. I too would not like the high feeling, so understand completely, try cutting down your dose and see how that works for you.
            Cheers
            Kathy
            2004 pos/MS 2006 Pos/MS also Pos/Crazy 14/01/2012 here we go againDx RRMS 21/06/2012

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              #51
              Originally posted by ladibabe View Post
              All I can say is Dr. Don't get kick backs from MMJ and other natural medicines that don't need a script or offer small profit margins... is what makes the medical profession one of the biggest for profit business in the world.
              You obviously don't have any doctors in your family or close circle, or maybe not for several decades. Time have changed for doctors! A doctor I'm close with has had his income reduced 20% every year for the last four or five years, and his group is facing a 50% reduction in salary in the next year alone (on top of the previous), all on account of "competitive" reimbursement rates constantly dropping. Can you imagine, in your job, whatever that is, having to accept your salary dropping and dropping for the same/more work?

              You might be surprised to learn how much your doctor actually takes home from a given procedure these days. And it may come as a shock, but some doctors really do want to help people and are motivated by making people feel better.

              It is also, in most places, not legal for doctors to prescribe marijuana.

              However, many of us do have doctors who prescribe alternative approaches, supplements, and lifestyle modifications for what ails us. I have several such doctors, and that's why I go to them, because their philosophy matches my own.

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                #52
                Originally posted by Special Kay View Post
                some doctors really do want to help people and are motivated by making people feel better.

                I have several such doctors, and that's why I go to them, because their philosophy matches my own.
                Thanks Special Kay.

                I'm not a physician but I am in health care and in my experience most providers really are doing their best to help their patients. Like you said the key is finding one with values that match yours.
                He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.
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                  #53
                  Conspiracy Theories

                  My husband was recently diagnosed with a malignant melanoma that spread to his lymph nodes. An aquaintance of his brought him books about a Rife Machine which is also a cure for cancer. The books include many stories about how the inventer of the machine was discredited by the medical mainstream (sound familiar?) Whatever the problem is there is a "cure".

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                    #54
                    wally8, I was started on the size of a grain of rice and it was increased gradually with each new tube according to rick's schedule.

                    No matter what the dose I still get loopy, but that is just me. It could also be my system is off fighting a bug. I am supposed to take it in the daytime too, but so far I can't tolerate it. It makes me too dizzy. I just take it at night.

                    LOL. my body is so very sensitive to RX. of any kind that I feel loopy when I take anything. Muscle relaxers, pain pills, all knock me out so I avoid as much as possible. Antibiotics eat up my gut. I think it is me with a low tolerance. When I had surgery, the hospital did not understand my reactions to meds. It comes from rarely taking anything.

                    KatJack, I would love to use a Rife Machine. Again it would be interesting to hear stories about healing with Rife. I heard much good about it. Sending healing thoughts. I collect a few cancer conspiracy books. The old, out of print books with a treasure of information.

                    Hugs.

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                      #55
                      @ Special K
                      I don't have Dr. Friends or family so I don't get to see how they live. I however work in automotive (white collar) and I have had a pay decrease and even had to be laid off before because of the troubles of the industry. So I do understand that.

                      However the discussion is natural medicines vs. Lab created medicines and how most Dr. Choose lab created with side effects that could possibly kill or make you feel worse.

                      Your right, I don't know your friends and family and have probably never been a patient of there's so its possible they are of the elite few that don't RX liver killing drugs over natural medicine with less side effects.
                      limbo land for 1 year and 4 months DX February 2012 Copaxon February 2012 for 6 months. No DMD's since.

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                        #56
                        RSO or tears seems to be helping. It has been a bit over a month. The pain is decreased if not gone most of the time. My body is developing a tolerance, so I am more alert. I don't feel high all the time. It feels like the spasity is greatly decreased. If I took a small daytime dose it completely goes away.

                        My head is clearer than before I started it. My energy levels are coming back. Yea!!!

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                          #57
                          RSO or tears seems to be helping. It has been a bit over a month. The pain is decreased if not gone most of the time. My body is developing a tolerance, so I am more alert. I don't feel high all the time. It feels like the spasity is greatly decreased. If I took a small daytime dose it completely goes away.

                          My head is clearer than before I started it. My energy levels are coming back. Yea!!!
                          So happy for you Rosepetals Good to hear your tolerance levels have increased, you should think of yourself as a pioneer, being one of the first to have the courage and open mindedness to break away from big pharma drugs and try RSO. You have taken your health into your own hands and low and behold, you havent dropped dead

                          Would love to hear what your baseline was before you started, as in... what were your symptoms,when was your last MRI, it would be interesting to see if the oil has any impact on lesion load.
                          I am hopeing to start the oil in the new year, but before I do, I will have as many tests done as possible so I can gage my progress. I am due for an MRI in Feburary so it will be full steam ahead after that.
                          Cheers
                          Kathy
                          2004 pos/MS 2006 Pos/MS also Pos/Crazy 14/01/2012 here we go againDx RRMS 21/06/2012

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                            #58
                            After 22 years with RRMS, still mobile and working full time I feel I have answer. DUMB LUCK in my case!!! :-)

                            But seriously, I find in more difficult to discredit Cannabis than other "Alternative" treatments as it does contain psychoactive substances, and it's theraputic use in anti-nausea for cancer patients, and also spasticity relief, and changing ones perception of pain is well documented.
                            Now here's the rub. Cannabis is also scientifically proven to cause mental abberation with long-term use. paranoia, panic attacks and can even precipipate schizophrenia in those who are susceptible.

                            So even if this is a cure - would I personally rather be physically incapacitated and mentally sound, or the reverse and be a physically sound mental carcrash

                            *** I would take retaining my mind over my body any day.

                            BUT - if this were proven, maybe they could find a way to remove the negative psycho-physiological effects and create a sound treatment.

                            Q.E.D. - I don't think that this idea should be ignored.
                            **per policy #4 KEEP IT CLEAN**
                            (however I am still giggling at "Phoenix Tears" no matter how silly!:-) )

                            More research is needed into marijuana as a treatment, but a CURE? - I sincerely doubt it.

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                              #59
                              Now here's the rub. Cannabis is also scientifically proven to cause mental abberation with long-term use. paranoia, panic attacks and can even precipipate schizophrenia in those who are susceptible.
                              I supose it depends on which article you are reading, because it has also scientifcally been proven that Cannabis is NOT the cause of schizophrenia.
                              Back in the 60's when the hippy movement was in full swing, the powers that be predicted a high increase to the % rates for the onset of schizoprenia...What happened surprised them. The % rate did not increase, infact it reduced by 1%. Ironically enough, schizophrenics are finding relief from their sx with the use of cannabis.

                              It can cause paranoia, but that has more to do with particular people useing particular strains. That same person would more than likely find, that just by trying a different strain, they longer have the paranoia. And also there is a big difference between paranoia and psychosis.

                              BUT - if this were proven, maybe they could find a way to remove the negative psycho-physiological effects and create a sound treatment.
                              They have already found that a compound of the plant called CBD1 has the anti psychotic properties, and are working to isolate them. The good news being that the cat is out of the proverbial bag, and legalization means more research, more research means good things for everyone

                              Cheers
                              Kathy
                              2004 pos/MS 2006 Pos/MS also Pos/Crazy 14/01/2012 here we go againDx RRMS 21/06/2012

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